1
00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:05,670
all right i didn't expect to go live so

2
00:00:10,950 --> 00:00:07,440
quickly

3
00:00:13,669 --> 00:00:10,960
after last night but this morning

4
00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:13,679
was filled with ufo news

5
00:00:18,390 --> 00:00:15,839
so i'm gonna go over some tweets and a

6
00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:18,400
few videos

7
00:00:24,630 --> 00:00:23,189
i think there's definitely enough to

8
00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:24,640
talk about

9
00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:26,240
to warrant

10
00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:28,720
going live

11
00:00:33,430 --> 00:00:32,079
as of now i have zero viewers and i did

12
00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:33,440
not promote this but that's usually how

13
00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:34,559
it's going to be

14
00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:35,920
if i think i have enough information

15
00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:37,440
i'll go live and if people want to watch

16
00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,000
it later they can

17
00:00:46,709 --> 00:00:45,510
in the meantime

18
00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:46,719
as we have

19
00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:50,160
two viewers now

20
00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,320
i will do this at the beginning and end

21
00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:54,559
and if you guys

22
00:00:58,709 --> 00:00:56,399
if you guys like this you want to show

23
00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:58,719
your support it would

24
00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:00,160
really help

25
00:01:03,349 --> 00:01:02,160
um

26
00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:03,359
and i will just go through that so

27
00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:06,479
that's patreon patreon is

28
00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,159
i like patreon uh there's supposedly

29
00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:11,040
something else which i do not know about

30
00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:13,040
sub stacked but i'm not really familiar

31
00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:14,240
with it

32
00:01:17,350 --> 00:01:15,360
um

33
00:01:18,630 --> 00:01:17,360
venmo

34
00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:18,640
and

35
00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:24,000
i think this is my first tweet from this

36
00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:27,759
morning and i can actually sense

37
00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:30,400
let's see is that better that's better

38
00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:32,560
i actually

39
00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:33,680
have my

40
00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:35,200
lockdown hair

41
00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:37,840
under control

42
00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:41,119
and alexander is here you are my

43
00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:42,240
only

44
00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:43,840
chat audience i know there are other

45
00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:45,280
people here so i'm going to i'm going to

46
00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,720
go over

47
00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:48,240
some of the stuff because there's a lot

48
00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:49,520
to talk about

49
00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:52,079
um so

50
00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:55,920
i had a message early from mariek

51
00:02:00,310 --> 00:01:57,439
and i don't know how to pronounce

52
00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:03,429
it is marieke

53
00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:04,880
it's on the

54
00:02:08,869 --> 00:02:06,719
let me pull up his article

55
00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:08,879
so i'll just read from his article i

56
00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:10,959
quoted his i quoted his article in my

57
00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:13,040
tweets but let me just pull up the

58
00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,440
actual article from the hill he's been

59
00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:17,920
writing articles uh op-ed pieces in the

60
00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:19,920
in the hill for the last i don't know if

61
00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:21,520
it's over a year but there's been real

62
00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:23,599
some really great articles over the past

63
00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:26,319
couple of months let me find let me find

64
00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,080
his actual article i'm going to read

65
00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:30,560
from it and i'll comment it i'll comment

66
00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:33,200
on it as we go along

67
00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:36,959
and it was ex officials here we go

68
00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,560
all right let me pull it up full screen

69
00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,400
so this was this morning

70
00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:44,000
this afternoon

71
00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:45,280
first thing i saw when i woke up and

72
00:02:48,959 --> 00:02:52,710
all right so

73
00:02:58,790 --> 00:02:55,990
start out let me get rid of fouchy

74
00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:58,800
make it a little bigger

75
00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:01,519
he starts out

76
00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:04,640
hey david david haith yeah david has

77
00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:07,519
been uh i've known david for

78
00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:14,790
really

79
00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:18,720
a lot of things i find out through him

80
00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:21,040
he's in the chat right now um and i

81
00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:23,200
actually i want to read one of his

82
00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,959
private messages because he summarized

83
00:03:28,949 --> 00:03:26,480
something and i didn't get to copy and

84
00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:28,959
paste it so i got to figure out

85
00:03:32,309 --> 00:03:30,080
how to i don't want to put all those

86
00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:32,319
private messages on there because he has

87
00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,239
very risque photos of himself up there

88
00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:36,400
and i do not want people to see that so

89
00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:42,309
hello edward picks drew and david all

90
00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:44,799
right here we go so this is mariek

91
00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:47,360
uh according to two department

92
00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:49,360
former department of defense officials

93
00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:52,239
the pentagon office recently tasked with

94
00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:54,640
assessing you know what

95
00:04:01,910 --> 00:03:56,959
what a bad way to start i have to get a

96
00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:01,920
drink otherwise i'm gonna run out of

97
00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:04,319
not energy but hey hey

98
00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:08,560
hey stop sorry i'm talking to the dog

99
00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:10,400
talking to the dog i'm not talking to

100
00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:12,840
myself sorry one

101
00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:15,840
second come here

102
00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:26,310
this is the sweetest dog

103
00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:30,960
i just yeah sorry

104
00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,680
this is the guy who causes me problems

105
00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,919
see how happy he is see how happy he is

106
00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:37,759
this is cookie he's been on before he

107
00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:39,280
destroys his paw

108
00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,800
so he had to be taped up and he pretends

109
00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:42,400
like he's gonna bite you and he does

110
00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:46,320
that stuff see isn't that great

111
00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,280
so

112
00:04:51,909 --> 00:04:49,520
i'll get back to reading full screen as

113
00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,919
cookie goes down

114
00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:53,600
all right go way down

115
00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,120
be good

116
00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:57,680
lay down come here

117
00:05:04,230 --> 00:04:59,600
sorry guys he is

118
00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:05,909
yeah

119
00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:09,039
he acts like cujo

120
00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:10,400
that's the problem with going live i am

121
00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,800
by myself here and i have to make sure

122
00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:14,400
he's not by himself because he just

123
00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:16,000
tears himself up

124
00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:20,720
get off of there get out of there go go

125
00:05:35,270 --> 00:05:22,800
go

126
00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:36,870
according to two department of defense

127
00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,680
officials the pentagon office recently

128
00:05:43,189 --> 00:05:41,840
tasked with assessing u.s military

129
00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:43,199
encounters

130
00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:45,840
with unidentified flying objects is

131
00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:47,919
woefully ill-equipped and improperly

132
00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:50,960
staffed to tackle its new mission

133
00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:57,110
moreover moreover the initiative

134
00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:59,039
threatens to derail a congressional

135
00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:00,479
proposal that would mandate

136
00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:03,199
unprecedented government transparency

137
00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:04,960
on ufos

138
00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:07,680
so basically it's just saying

139
00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:09,199
the

140
00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:11,199
a o i

141
00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:13,759
m s g the the pentagon office that

142
00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:15,759
they're talking about would undermine

143
00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:17,440
the gillibrand

144
00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:20,000
rubio amendment which is something we're

145
00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:22,319
really hoping passes

146
00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:24,960
in an interview luis elizano luis

147
00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:26,479
elizondo and this was an interview

148
00:06:29,830 --> 00:06:27,919
conducted on

149
00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,840
saturday with elizondo according to

150
00:06:33,990 --> 00:06:31,840
merrick i i i asked him when the

151
00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:34,000
interview was done he said saturday so

152
00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:37,039
elizondo gave him these quotes

153
00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:39,039
five days ago saturday sunday morning

154
00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:41,120
four days ago in an interview luis

155
00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:44,720
elisdondo the former head of an informal

156
00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,840
dod unit that

157
00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,479
assessed

158
00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:50,880
military ufo reports

159
00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:53,120
told me he had deep reservations about

160
00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,960
the office of the under secretary of

161
00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:56,160
defense

162
00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:58,400
for intelligence and security

163
00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:00,240
leading a government effort to

164
00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:02,800
investigate the ufo phenomenon

165
00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:03,919
right off the bat i'm sure people are

166
00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:06,880
going to say wait a second

167
00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,919
informal dod unit

168
00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:11,759
whether it's informal or formal they

169
00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:13,759
studied ufos okay i don't know every

170
00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,800
detail

171
00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,800
as i said last night and other nights

172
00:07:20,469 --> 00:07:18,319
lou said they had funding we just don't

173
00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:20,479
know where that funding came from as of

174
00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:22,240
this time

175
00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:24,000
people want to get into every little

176
00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:26,240
detail that's fine but to undermine lou

177
00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:28,000
i think that's a mistake because between

178
00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:29,759
lou and melon that's why we're here i'm

179
00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:31,759
even before without those guys i'm not

180
00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:33,759
even i'm not even doing this right now

181
00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:34,800
so

182
00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:43,110
okay

183
00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:44,479
i see the comments but i want to keep

184
00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:46,000
going

185
00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:52,790
according to ella's on though

186
00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:54,400
ufos are quote

187
00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:57,440
not solely an intelligence issue

188
00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:59,520
if we want 70 more years of secrecy on

189
00:08:01,629 --> 00:08:00,560
this topic

190
00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:01,639
then

191
00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:03,919
o-u-o-u-s-d-i and s is the perfect place

192
00:08:07,589 --> 00:08:05,840
to put it they've had four years so far

193
00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:07,599
we have little in the way of efforts

194
00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:09,840
serving the public public interest this

195
00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:11,199
goes along with what he was saying in

196
00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:12,879
his tweets but it's nice to see in the

197
00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:14,960
hill um obviously i'd rather see it in

198
00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:16,400
the new york times or the washington

199
00:08:20,309 --> 00:08:18,960
post no offense to the hill or marik

200
00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:20,319
um

201
00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:21,919
it doesn't have as much punch but it's

202
00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,680
out there so

203
00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:25,280
and we have more stuff going on later on

204
00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:27,919
that we can we can i can show you

205
00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:29,280
if you've been on twitter today this is

206
00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:31,280
not going to be new to you

207
00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:33,519
referring to pending legislation drafted

208
00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:35,519
by senator kirsten gilbrand that would

209
00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:37,919
mandate unclassified reporting on ufos

210
00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:39,680
and revolutionize the government study

211
00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:42,080
of the phenomena elizondo believes that

212
00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:44,480
quote if we want meaningful change and

213
00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:46,160
transparency then we should keep the

214
00:08:53,630 --> 00:08:49,200
spirit of the gillibrand amendment

215
00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:53,640
christopher mellon who ran ousdi and as

216
00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:56,320
ousdi's predecessor organization during

217
00:08:59,430 --> 00:08:57,680
the clinton and george w bush

218
00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:59,440
administrations echoed elizondo's

219
00:09:04,389 --> 00:09:01,760
concerned uh concerns and this is from

220
00:09:06,829 --> 00:09:04,399
elizondo's uh letter to senator not

221
00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:06,839
senator congressman ruben gallego out of

222
00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,040
arizona he wrote a letter to him and he

223
00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:11,760
put it on his on his blog on his website

224
00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:14,160
so that's what marik is quoting from

225
00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:18,800
melon expressed shock that ousdi

226
00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:20,560
is taking on a permanent mission to

227
00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:23,440
analyze ufo encounters as mellon notes

228
00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:26,800
his former office is an oversight versus

229
00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:28,800
an operational organization with no

230
00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:29,839
relevant

231
00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:32,320
funding line authority contracting

232
00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,480
command or technical capabilities to

233
00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:36,399
execute the kind of robust ufo

234
00:09:41,829 --> 00:09:39,360
investigations gillibrand's bipartisan

235
00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:41,839
legislation demands

236
00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:43,839
um i'll stop if there's anything you

237
00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:46,320
guys have to say hey tom good to see you

238
00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:54,949
hi aleister

239
00:09:59,350 --> 00:09:56,800
good to see you the hill yeah the hill

240
00:10:00,550 --> 00:09:59,360
mariek has been great with these op-eds

241
00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:00,560
um

242
00:10:03,990 --> 00:10:02,560
so hopefully it's kind of i'm surprised

243
00:10:06,069 --> 00:10:04,000
we haven't gotten more of this report

244
00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,079
i'm not shocked but i'm surprised since

245
00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:08,480
they jumped on the bandwagon in 2017 and

246
00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:10,399
along the way more people haven't

247
00:10:14,949 --> 00:10:12,320
reported on this but that's that's just

248
00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:16,310
so

249
00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:18,079
like elizondo melon believes the

250
00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:20,079
inability of i don't want to have to

251
00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:23,120
keep saying oh usdi but uh

252
00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:25,040
so the office of the under secretary of

253
00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:27,360
defense to engage effectively on the ufo

254
00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:29,519
issue is why so little has changed or

255
00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:32,240
been accomplished since 2004 mellon's

256
00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:35,120
reference to 2004 is not accidental that

257
00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:37,120
november four naval aviators observed

258
00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:39,120
the mysterious flying object so he's

259
00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,560
talking about the tic tac i'm not going

260
00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:42,560
to read everything

261
00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:44,880
that's why melon referred to 2004

262
00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:51,670
intelligence analyses of the encounter

263
00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:53,600
ruled out highly advanced chinese or

264
00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:55,440
russian aircraft for plausible

265
00:10:59,030 --> 00:10:57,519
explanations for their part the aviators

266
00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:59,040
who observe the object believe that it

267
00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:00,959
was not from this world and i've said

268
00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:02,640
before

269
00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:04,399
that's not irrelevant that they don't

270
00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:05,760
think it's from this world but that

271
00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:08,240
that's not the be all end-all and as far

272
00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:10,240
as the possibility that it's black

273
00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:12,399
technology i don't put the possibility

274
00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:14,560
of black technology high on the list

275
00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:17,279
it's on my list it's a very small list

276
00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,680
i think it was if i had somebody said

277
00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:21,200
you need to bet i'm like all right i

278
00:11:25,269 --> 00:11:23,680
would bet it's not human technology but

279
00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:25,279
i still leave open the door for black

280
00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:26,480
technology

281
00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,240
but the fact that david for commander

282
00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:30,240
david framer said he didn't think it was

283
00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,399
from this world unless he's read into

284
00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:34,959
every program that we have

285
00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:36,720
it doesn't mean really mean as much if

286
00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:38,880
luis elizondo who has

287
00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,480
according to himself been right into a

288
00:11:44,389 --> 00:11:42,720
lot of programs says that that's another

289
00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:44,399
story so i give i give lou's opinion

290
00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:52,710
i agree tom it's important that the hill

291
00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:54,720
had it the hill's been doing great work

292
00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,240
i still would rather see the new york

293
00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:58,000
times and or the washington post or the

294
00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:59,760
wall street journal but

295
00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:01,600
we take what we can get for now

296
00:12:06,069 --> 00:12:04,240
the 2004 incident was not an isolated

297
00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:06,079
event in recent years military personnel

298
00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:07,519
briefed members of congress and spoke

299
00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:09,519
publicly about encounters involving

300
00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:11,360
unidentified objects operating with

301
00:12:15,990 --> 00:12:13,839
apparent impunity in sensitive airspace

302
00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:16,000
moreover reports from multiple highly

303
00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:18,079
credible observers of mysterious

304
00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:19,680
intelligently controlled craft

305
00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:22,240
exhibiting extraordinary technologies

306
00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:24,800
date back to the 1940s it's it's

307
00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:27,360
important when you read his articles he

308
00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:29,680
links back to older articles important

309
00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:31,760
pieces of information that show the

310
00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:34,320
origin of these reports going way back

311
00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:36,000
and that's what's so so great about his

312
00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:37,760
articles you won't see that in a lot of

313
00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:39,680
articles but he goes out of his way to

314
00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:42,079
put really important links to really

315
00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:43,760
important information if people who are

316
00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,560
new

317
00:12:49,190 --> 00:12:47,040
this

318
00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:49,200
those links will help a lot

319
00:12:52,949 --> 00:12:51,120
with noteworthy parallels to recent

320
00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:52,959
intelligence assessments declassified

321
00:12:58,470 --> 00:12:56,480
government analyses from 1947 to 1952

322
00:13:03,430 --> 00:12:58,480
suggested extraordinary explanations for

323
00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:05,509
but after cold war national national

324
00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:07,519
security fears sparked seven decades of

325
00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:10,639
government obfuscation derision and

326
00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:13,760
belittling of ufo reporting elizondo is

327
00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:16,000
not convinced that burying this issue in

328
00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:18,560
the deep dark bowels of the pentagon

329
00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:21,279
under an intelligence organization

330
00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:23,200
is the best way to shed light on a topic

331
00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:25,760
that needs a whole of government

332
00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:28,160
approach

333
00:13:30,389 --> 00:13:29,200
and

334
00:13:32,470 --> 00:13:30,399
by the way a lot of people there are

335
00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,480
people who just listen to my youtube

336
00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:34,639
stuff so it's kind of like driving along

337
00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,160
with my voice so

338
00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:37,680
i know for some people it's boring to

339
00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:39,279
read an article that you've already read

340
00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:41,920
so i understand if you tune out

341
00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:43,360
but i definitely want to i want to read

342
00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:45,040
it for those folks and

343
00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,880
i will definitely jump in and offer

344
00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:48,480
opinions and i'm looking

345
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:50,240
i'm looking at comments as i'm reading

346
00:13:53,910 --> 00:13:52,000
too

347
00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:53,920
depending uh tom says the pentagon is

348
00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:55,360
going to fight the gillibrand amendment

349
00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:57,120
tooth and nail yeah and it's going to be

350
00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:59,199
up to congress how strong they can fight

351
00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:00,079
back

352
00:14:03,430 --> 00:14:00,880
um

353
00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:03,440
that's what it's gonna come down to that

354
00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:04,560
and there are there are people

355
00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:06,240
supporting the gillibrand rubio

356
00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:07,600
amendment but

357
00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:10,000
it needs to be a lot of people

358
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,920
they need to push hard and it's not a

359
00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:14,079
done deal yet i mean it should pass

360
00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:17,040
according to douglas dean johnson who

361
00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:19,040
covers he's very familiar with

362
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,720
washington he says

363
00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:22,480
he thinks it will make it in there but

364
00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:24,000
the question is how much of it will make

365
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:25,600
it in there you know we need to have

366
00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,600
health related effects

367
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,600
crash retrievals the really the stuff

368
00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:31,680
that really made it made us excited when

369
00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,990
so

370
00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:41,189
liking the ufo problem to climate change

371
00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,800
where the government brought people in

372
00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,040
from the outside to serve in an advisory

373
00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,519
role and capacity

374
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:49,519
did lou actually compare it to climate

375
00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:50,880
change because there are i remember a

376
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:52,560
recent interview i'm pretty sure

377
00:14:54,870 --> 00:14:53,760
somebody said

378
00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:54,880
do you think there's any connection

379
00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:56,959
between uap and climate change and i

380
00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,680
think that the person was trying to say

381
00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,600
since our climate is going going to hell

382
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:04,320
and you know the environment that maybe

383
00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:06,800
whoever is behind the ufos is upping

384
00:15:10,790 --> 00:15:08,800
their game making themselves more you

385
00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,800
know more obvious and that's why they're

386
00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,560
showing up more but lou said no as far

387
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:14,079
as i know

388
00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,600
there's no connection but in this and

389
00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:17,279
this is not the same exact thing he's

390
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:19,199
just saying as far as handling the

391
00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:20,959
problem we should tackle it the way we

392
00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:23,040
would handle climate change

393
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:24,959
he says

394
00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,399
you know we brought in people from the

395
00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:28,560
outside to serve in an inv in an

396
00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:31,040
advisory role in capacity

397
00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:33,199
elzonda believes the involvement of the

398
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:35,600
national oceanic and atmospheric

399
00:15:38,829 --> 00:15:37,519
administration

400
00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:38,839
noaa

401
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,440
faa academia and the scientific

402
00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:43,440
community as mandated by gillibrand's

403
00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,320
proposed legislation is of unc

404
00:15:50,870 --> 00:15:48,800
is of critical importance

405
00:15:53,189 --> 00:15:50,880
let's slow down

406
00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,199
according to elizondo

407
00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:55,600
we've had 70 years to try to figure out

408
00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:58,480
the ufo problem out as a government

409
00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,519
while keeping it in the halls of secrecy

410
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:03,279
and we haven't come any closer to

411
00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:05,519
figuring it out why are we going to

412
00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:08,480
repeat the same mistake all over again

413
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:11,360
are we crazy that's the very definition

414
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,399
of insanity have we not learned

415
00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:16,560
that's exactly i mean

416
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,360
it's

417
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:19,440
when people criticize lewin suggests

418
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:22,880
he's some sort of psyop officer come on

419
00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:25,600
if he is he wins psyop officer of the

420
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,639
century i will make the award myself

421
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:30,320
while praising deputy secretary of

422
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:32,000
defense kathleen hicks's attention and

423
00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:33,920
by the way

424
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,639
the person i spoke to when asked i asked

425
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:38,720
one person about this

426
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:39,920
ao

427
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,880
intentionally trying to cut the legs out

428
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:46,639
from gillibrand rubio like it wasn't

429
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,000
something nefarious that's what the

430
00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:50,160
person told me but it's still you know

431
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,600
you're basically still ignoring that

432
00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:53,040
legislation so i don't know if she was

433
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:55,279
just following orders but lou says he

434
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:56,959
praises her he says

435
00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:59,279
praises her attention to the ufo issue

436
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:00,959
uh but he expressed concern that hicks

437
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:03,279
is being hoodwinked by certain elements

438
00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:05,280
and members of her own staff so she

439
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:07,039
probably doesn't really realize what's

440
00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:08,240
going on

441
00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:08,959
but

442
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:10,559
after all this is in the news hopefully

443
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,319
she starts paying attention

444
00:17:15,669 --> 00:17:14,240
according to elizondo if hicks had the

445
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,679
complete picture

446
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,280
she would not have made the decision to

447
00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:19,760
place the ufo mission under the purview

448
00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:22,959
of ousdi

449
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,839
um

450
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,679
so let's get her

451
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,520
is there any way to get her briefed and

452
00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,760
if there is then they should do it

453
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:31,760
um thanks jade i know a lot of people

454
00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:32,960
are not on twitter i'm going to try to

455
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,230
when elizondo was pressed

456
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:48,640
on his reservations over o-u-s-d-i and

457
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:51,679
i'm leaving out to ask it's just quicker

458
00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:53,679
uh his reservations over them tackling

459
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,360
the ufo problem

460
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,520
elizondo pointed to a combination of

461
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,000
ineptitude moral objection to the topic

462
00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:02,720
and classic stigma into taboo

463
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:05,120
expanding on this point elizondo stated

464
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,240
documentation exists that if made public

465
00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:10,480
would illustrate the sense of urgency

466
00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,799
and the need for a neutral unbiased and

467
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:15,039
objective office to investigate the ufo

468
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:16,400
phenomenon

469
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:20,160
so document documentation exists

470
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:22,640
what i mean

471
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,200
why can't that document why can't that

472
00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:26,880
documentation be shown is it is it

473
00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:28,320
something only he was able to see

474
00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,240
because of his special access you know

475
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:31,679
he was read into certain programs where

476
00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:35,120
he saw that documentation

477
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,919
and if not then get somebody somebody

478
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,120
get the person who has the right

479
00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:41,200
clearance to look at that documentation

480
00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,160
um elizondo also mentioned

481
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,679
his resignation

482
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,120
let me just read that one more time

483
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:48,880
expanding on this point elizondo stated

484
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:52,080
documentation exists that if made public

485
00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:54,000
would illustrate the sense of urgency

486
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,760
and the need for a neutral unbiased

487
00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:58,080
objective office to investigate the ufo

488
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,679
phenomenon

489
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:01,280
what would i wonder what would

490
00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,960
illustrate the sense of urgency if this

491
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,120
has been going on since

492
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,760
let's say 1945 and we're talking about

493
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:09,440
trinity that the crash that happened

494
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,240
then just let's pick that date

495
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,080
what's going on as far as besides

496
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,160
besides an uptick in activity over the

497
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,480
last couple of years i don't if i'm if

498
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,320
i'm somebody in congress i'm like

499
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:22,080
why should i act now i mean this has

500
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:24,000
been going on for so long and really

501
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:25,600
nothing has changed so i'm playing

502
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:28,000
devil's advocate i'm just wondering what

503
00:19:33,909 --> 00:19:29,760
what would be in that documentation to

504
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,549
i'm looking i'm looking at quotes

505
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:38,880
steven bassett says the hills read is

506
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:40,240
read by everybody in government so this

507
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,919
piece should get attention that's that's

508
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:42,960
great

509
00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:44,559
um

510
00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:47,440
yeah i'm i'm glad

511
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:54,710
elizondo has mentioned his

512
00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,640
resignation in protest over the lack of

513
00:20:00,789 --> 00:19:58,720
high level attention toward the issue

514
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:00,799
saying in some cases there are

515
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:03,840
individuals who have taken it personally

516
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:06,480
that i left in the manner that i did and

517
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,280
they want this entire topic to go away

518
00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:11,120
if that's the only reason why they want

519
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:14,559
this topic to go away that's pretty uh i

520
00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,559
don't the word is but that's ridiculous

521
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,559
i could see you know they think there's

522
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,240
a group that thinks this is demonic you

523
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,000
know we'll get to that

524
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,320
um but

525
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,080
they're mad over the way he left so

526
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,159
they're gonna ignore ufos sorry that's

527
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,559
like and i won't mention names but

528
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,120
earlier when skinwalkers at the pentagon

529
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:35,200
came out somebody said i was like why

530
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,960
aren't you covering this they're like

531
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,320
and i mentioned all the people that work

532
00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:41,039
for this organization and they said well

533
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,559
those people really don't like you so

534
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,840
they're probably even going to go out of

535
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:45,840
the way even more to not cover it i'm

536
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:46,799
like

537
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,720
that's that's that's not professional if

538
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,400
you if if you have readers who are

539
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,880
interested in the ufo subject

540
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:54,480
you educate them and let them know

541
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:56,240
what's going on skinwalkers at the

542
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,760
pentagon is one of the most important

543
00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:00,240
books in my opinion in recent years and

544
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,919
and since i've gotten into this subject

545
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,640
so

546
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,320
to not educate your listeners because

547
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,240
they don't look because they don't like

548
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:08,080
me that's kind of like losing well they

549
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,320
were mad that i resigned improperly so

550
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,679
they're not going to cover ufos they

551
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,600
don't want anything to do with it seems

552
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,360
very uh immature

553
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:17,760
from a strategic perspective elizondo

554
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:23,590
that senior ousdi staff want to focus on

555
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:25,679
the threats that they can define not the

556
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:28,400
threats that that are undefined

557
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,200
according to elizondo we in the dod are

558
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,520
very good at addressing defined threats

559
00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:35,520
whether it's weapons of mass destruction

560
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,240
or terrorism or stabilization operations

561
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,760
but when you get to something that is

562
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:42,000
ill-defined where we don't know what it

563
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,440
is we don't know where it's from we

564
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,360
don't know what its capabilities are we

565
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:47,679
don't know what its intent is and we

566
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,760
don't know who's behind the wheel

567
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,120
that is really

568
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,120
a really tough topic to tackle from a

569
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:55,440
national security perspective but just

570
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,480
because we don't know the origin of ufos

571
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:00,400
doesn't mean we should keep burying our

572
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,039
heads in the sand

573
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,520
elizondo also expressed concerns over

574
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,520
government transparency stating that

575
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,360
there is plenty of documentation

576
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:12,400
substantiating that certain elements

577
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,960
of ousdi have not been forthcoming

578
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,320
man i would love to see that those

579
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,480
documents that's one of the reasons why

580
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,240
there's a dod inspector general

581
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,080
evaluation to determine how they are

582
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:26,799
handling or in this case mishandling the

583
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:30,159
ufo topic over the last four years

584
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,240
i think it goes way beyond the last four

585
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:34,320
years

586
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,400
this is the same office that has bungled

587
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,559
up the ufo issue so badly and has been

588
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,440
telling people nothing to see here

589
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,520
to include not just senior dod

590
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,840
leadership but also the do department of

591
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,400
defense inspector general

592
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,520
and even congress

593
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:53,120
so let me just read that one more time

594
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,480
this is the same office that has bundled

595
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:56,159
ufo issues so badly has been telling

596
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,159
people nothing to see here so they've

597
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,159
been telling dod leadership that they've

598
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,840
been telling the dod inspector general

599
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,919
that and they've been telling congress

600
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,760
there's nothing

601
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,600
related to ufos that you should care

602
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,280
about

603
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,799
when i talk to certain elements within

604
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:12,799
congress they all say the same thing

605
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,520
that the ousdi support has been

606
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,760
underwhelming

607
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:20,080
while noting that the

608
00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:27,600
patriotic civil servants in ous o usdi

609
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,440
elizondo believes that certain senior

610
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,360
leaders in the office are operating in a

611
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:33,039
manner that is not consistent with

612
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,559
agenda that congress has for the

613
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,120
american people not consistent with the

614
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,720
agenda that congress has for the

615
00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:41,039
american people so

616
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,080
moreover elizondo believes that these

617
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,559
career ousdi officials do not want the

618
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,880
ufo issue going public because

619
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,640
then they're going to have to unwind the

620
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,120
tape and admit to a lot of people that

621
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:55,120
they have not been telling the truth on

622
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,480
this topic

623
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:58,640
in other words they've been lying to us

624
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:02,000
for a long time a small group of people

625
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,919
referring in part to sudden pentagon

626
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:05,919
denials that he managed the pentagon's

627
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:09,279
informal ufo analysis unit elizondo

628
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,200
anticipates further reprisals for

629
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:13,440
speaking out

630
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,630
thanks guys for uh watching

631
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,320
listening i know

632
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:26,080
this is not popular for most twitter

633
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:27,279
folks because they've seen a lot of this

634
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:34,230
i know the the youtube crowd will grow

635
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:36,159
over time because i know

636
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:38,640
twitter is not looked upon so highly but

637
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,159
you can still go on twitter follow me

638
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:42,880
and a handful of people like david heyth

639
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,679
um

640
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,279
and get some great information up to

641
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,640
date too

642
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,400
we get stuff really quick i know it's

643
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:49,679
not really important to be quick it's

644
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,320
more important to be accurate but

645
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:54,000
sharing information twitter is a great

646
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,200
tool for that

647
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,600
elizondo expressed cautious optimism

648
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,279
optimism that senator gillibrand's

649
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,279
historic bipartisan ufo legislation

650
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:03,520
would become law saying i think we're in

651
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,279
a good spot i think we've come a long

652
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,200
way there seemed to be a lot of people

653
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:09,279
really trying to get behind behind this

654
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,799
in a productive not in a sensational way

655
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,400
according to elizon though members of

656
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:16,880
congress are taking a huge risk by even

657
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,840
considering this particular topic there

658
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,679
are people who tend to be risk averse to

659
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,200
begin with and yet they're willing to

660
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,520
put their credibility on the line this

661
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:26,840
is the most important part of the

662
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,480
article what does that tell you he asked

663
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,000
that tells you that they've seen

664
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,400
information that is compelling enough

665
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:35,840
that they're willing to do what's

666
00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,120
necessary

667
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,799
so that's the end of that article so

668
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,320
what have they been shown have they been

669
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:42,480
shown the 23 minute video that we've all

670
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:44,720
heard about i don't know i don't know

671
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,039
exactly what they've seen you know

672
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:49,919
bob mcguire has said that

673
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,799
some of it was sci-fi stuff some of the

674
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,480
videos that they saw

675
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,760
so

676
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,320
obviously we want to see that um i see

677
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,760
no reason why

678
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,600
any of those people can't describe what

679
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,919
they saw if they were shown videos

680
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,679
so if they were shown videos

681
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,520
um

682
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,600
of a 23-minute video

683
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,149
other videos that showed craft making

684
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,200
maneuvers that appear to be anti-gravity

685
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:19,600
i don't see any reason

686
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:22,640
they can't go

687
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:25,200
to a reporter and say this is exactly

688
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,080
what i saw because it's not giving away

689
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,080
sources and methods not showing you

690
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,760
anything in the cockpit on the flear

691
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,080
it's not showing you how the f-18 or

692
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,679
whatever sensor picked it up it's not

693
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:37,440
showing you any of that

694
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,880
they should be able to describe it and

695
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,400
that's something

696
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:43,120
whoever interviews lou

697
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,799
which i would love to do one day should

698
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,760
ask him that and you know say why

699
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:49,520
why can't they talk about it that

700
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,279
shouldn't be classified talking about

701
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:53,279
the closest the closest who came to that

702
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:54,159
was

703
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,120
um

704
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:57,120
senator martin heinrich came close to

705
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:58,480
that

706
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,520
so

707
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,200
but nobody else has if you guys have any

708
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,520
questions before i move on to

709
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,520
some of my tweets with some videos let

710
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,600
me know

711
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,919
you know the air force goes way back

712
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,400
it's only speculation but air force

713
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,080
probably doesn't want this to come out

714
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,480
because they're going to look really bad

715
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,320
since they were in charge of a lot of

716
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:21,679
this you know as drew said

717
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:23,679
the navy

718
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,880
also the air force i think in 2020

719
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:32,960
they had a new program and put in place

720
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:34,640
where you know pilots are more

721
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:36,159
encouraged to come forward but i don't

722
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:37,360
know how much

723
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:39,440
fruit that has you know

724
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,880
brought forth i don't know

725
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:42,399
if that's really happening if they're

726
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:43,360
talking

727
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,559
um

728
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:46,159
but let me go

729
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,120
i know

730
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:48,640
i'm sure in certain interviews eric

731
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,279
davis and hal pitoff has alluded to

732
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:52,880
there are certain air force people who

733
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,880
have come forward i don't know how many

734
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:56,480
you know not like i don't know how i

735
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,919
don't even know how many navy folks have

736
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,360
done it behind the scenes that we

737
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,159
haven't even heard about

738
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,240
let me go to some of the good stuff on

739
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,320
twitter today

740
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:08,320
they're saying that ndaa may not pass

741
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,159
until 2022 now that's fine i mean it

742
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:14,240
douglas dean johnson just follow him

743
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,760
he's like

744
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:17,279
he's still confident it will it will

745
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,799
make it in there i mean we're in

746
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,720
december right now so 2022 is right

747
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:22,000
around the corner

748
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,600
as long as it makes it in there and as

749
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:25,520
long as

750
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:32,310
a ufo office that goes

751
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:34,960
and investigates cases looks into human

752
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,039
related injuries

753
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,840
or human related effects and

754
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,200
investigates whether or not we have

755
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:43,200
crash retrievals which obviously is a

756
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,760
pipe dream and something

757
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:47,679
i never thought i'd see in there but

758
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,399
that's that's what we need

759
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,399
but we'll see 2022 is fine let me go

760
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:54,399
through

761
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,070
let's see

762
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,830
there were some videos and there's

763
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,399
there's uh douglas dean johnson who's

764
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,919
been great on this saying to stay the

765
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,360
course

766
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,600
continue to urge those who represent it

767
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,200
represent you in congress to support

768
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,520
inclusion of the gilvan rubio amendment

769
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:17,120
don't get wrapped up in arcane

770
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,200
legislative mechanics there's

771
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,679
yeah there'll be reports like oh it's

772
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:23,200
not going to make it in here and it's

773
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:30,149
ryan bender said i understand i

774
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,600
understand there are behind the scenes

775
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,120
negotiations to get something on the

776
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,520
final bill not in this senate version so

777
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:37,600
and that's where douglas jean douglas

778
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:40,480
johnson is like just relax folks we will

779
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:43,039
get we will get what we're looking for

780
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,399
obviously it's not guaranteed until it

781
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,520
happens

782
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:47,840
um so let me go back to earlier in the

783
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,710
i will try to play all the videos i had

784
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:56,559
starting with actually i was right where

785
00:30:04,230 --> 00:29:58,640
i was that's from last night on my other

786
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:05,669
just some tweets just some tweets from

787
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,640
folks saying when you consider

788
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:08,799
everything it's when you consider

789
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:11,039
everything it becomes clear

790
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,190
when you consider everything it becomes

791
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,600
clear without lou or mellon's experience

792
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:21,600
and understanding dod's actions or lack

793
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,840
of on uap this movement wouldn't be no

794
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,600
further ahead today than four years ago

795
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,440
with a little help from this feisty

796
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:29,840
community boots on the ground leadership

797
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,200
yes lou and chris that's why now

798
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:36,480
why now that's the answer

799
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,880
and then sean from witness citizen

800
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,960
posted this he said

801
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,960
this is from i don't know what year this

802
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:45,200
is from

803
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:47,120
19 i don't know he says when you're on a

804
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,039
ufo investigation your team needs to

805
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,360
have a geiger counter a camera a tape

806
00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:53,600
recorder binoculars and a magnifying

807
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,720
glass which i told him i would get at

808
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:58,000
walmart

809
00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,200
um

810
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,240
that is my confirmation picture from

811
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,399
when i was 15 because i was telling

812
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:05,679
people i didn't want to go on camera

813
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,880
because i have

814
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,880
locked down hair which is similar to

815
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,960
that hair and i told my mother i'm like

816
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,880
how the hell did you let me walk around

817
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:15,039
with that hair how mom

818
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,320
i mean that's embarrassing

819
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,399
anyway

820
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:22,240
let's get to some of the the videos that

821
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:23,440
we're playing all right so this is

822
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:25,760
senator timber chat this is

823
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,960
let me know

824
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,279
let me make sure that i get the audio on

825
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:30,640
this because

826
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,080
we have some audio clips

827
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:36,799
coming up and i really want to make sure

828
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:38,559
you can hear them just give me one

829
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,519
second

830
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:40,960
share screen

831
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,720
that

832
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,360
twitter audio here we go okay

833
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,279
let me play this audio if you have any

834
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,440
problems hearing it

835
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:51,120
let me know i'm going to put headphones

836
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,960
on this so i don't

837
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,320
echo

838
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:56,559
focus the report raised more questions

839
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:57,360
than

840
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,679
last summer's ufo report mr speaker from

841
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,600
the director of national intelligence

842
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,200
was bogus

843
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:04,480
just let me know if you guys can hear

844
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,549
last summer's ufo report mr speaker from

845
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,480
the director of national intelligence

846
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,640
was bogus the report raised more

847
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:16,240
questions than answers and about

848
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,559
unidentified unidentified objects in the

849
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,880
skies it stunk of a government cover-up

850
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,279
mr speaker now the pentagon is starting

851
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,200
a new office to collect information on

852
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:27,600
these unidentified objects the office is

853
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:29,039
called the airborne object

854
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,799
identification and management

855
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,720
synchronization group

856
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,919
i don't know where they came up with

857
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,960
that name

858
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,399
i'm sure they paid somebody a lot of

859
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,240
money to come up with that i do not

860
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:40,399
trust this new office mr speaker i don't

861
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,679
think it will be transparent with

862
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:43,360
lawmakers or the public about its

863
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,760
findings this is a national security

864
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:47,360
issue congress needs to know what is

865
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,399
going on so we can respond accordingly

866
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,240
today i'm requesting the leaders of this

867
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,120
new office bring members of congress on

868
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:57,360
their ufo bring them in on their ufo

869
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,880
findings this is a matter of great

870
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,039
public interest and has been for a very

871
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:03,279
long time to a lot of americans our

872
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,640
government should not hide the truth

873
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:07,039
from us for another second

874
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,559
if this new office is to be held

875
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,000
accountable our country will get more

876
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,000
reports like the one that that came out

877
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,080
last summer or worse they will be silent

878
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:15,600
and hope we all just forget about the

879
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:17,039
phenomena

880
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:19,120
we do not need to fear these these

881
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:22,480
airborne unidentified objects

882
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:23,440
i don't know where he's getting that

883
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,600
from we do not fear we do not need to

884
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,679
fear these unidentified flying objects

885
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,440
we have no idea if we need to fear them

886
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,440
or not hopefully we don't but

887
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:33,279
as if you read skinwalkers at the

888
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,480
pentagon

889
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:37,039
if you see a ufo and help hal put off

890
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,399
said this a couple years ago when he

891
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:40,240
lectured here in vegas

892
00:33:43,509 --> 00:33:41,120
uh

893
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,519
if you see a landed ufo

894
00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,440
just keep your distance uh i don't know

895
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,440
who said it i think it was kelleher in a

896
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,360
recent interview somebody asked him it

897
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,720
was a good question

898
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,240
did you guys determine a certain

899
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,320
distance there was

900
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:56,320
to be away from the ufo where you would

901
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:57,919
not get injured and not have these

902
00:34:01,669 --> 00:34:00,159
injuries and he said we don't have data

903
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,679
enough data on that but there were

904
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:04,240
people that were far away and still had

905
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,600
injuries

906
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:11,190
so ufos can possibly be bad for your

907
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,480
health if you're

908
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,159
in the wrong place at the wrong time or

909
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,399
if an orb flies through your body like

910
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:19,280
supposedly happened in the oregon case

911
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,280
but as far as overall what it means for

912
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,679
the human race i have no idea i don't

913
00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,359
think he does either they would have

914
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,280
shown themselves to be to fear these

915
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:29,520
these airborne unidentified objects they

916
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,720
would have shown themselves to be

917
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:32,720
dangerous a long time ago by now if they

918
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,200
were a threat our citizens and country

919
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,520
can handle the truth mr speaker thank

920
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,119
you mr speaker i yield the remainder of

921
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:43,750
i remember it was uh christopher mellon

922
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:44,960
said

923
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,240
people could handle it can handle the

924
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,320
truth and melon jumped in and said how

925
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,919
do we know if they can handle the truth

926
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,119
when we don't know what we're dealing

927
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:54,879
with what if they're irrat what if

928
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:58,160
they're flesh eating arachnids um

929
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:59,839
but i'm not really criticize people like

930
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,359
oh just give him a break he's talking

931
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,119
about ufos on the floor of congress i'm

932
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,880
like yeah of course i support this just

933
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,880
pointing out we don't know as far as i'm

934
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,160
glad he's speaking out i don't want to

935
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:10,240
do anything to stop him but i don't want

936
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,599
people to get the wrong impression who

937
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,160
are first getting into this you know oh

938
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,480
they're here to help us obviously you

939
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,560
know there's nothing negative about ufos

940
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,000
i just don't think we should be saying

941
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,670
any comments on tim burch

942
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,240
yeah i just i just played it walker um

943
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,240
it's great that he's speaking up i'm not

944
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:31,920
sure if he's enough to get this ball

945
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:34,560
rolling rolling we need senators no

946
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,480
offense to congressman uh we need a

947
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,720
bunch of senators we need kirsten

948
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,280
gillibrand to speak publicly like that

949
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,160
why she hasn't yet i don't know i mean i

950
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,680
kind of know but probably stigma still

951
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,440
i mean she's she's been interviewed

952
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:52,320
about it she's spoken about it

953
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,839
let me just go through some of your your

954
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,280
comments

955
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,800
burchette was the only senator to call

956
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,280
into the unidentified celebrity reviews

957
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:01,520
big phone home um

958
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,240
i'd like to that he's speaking up but

959
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,760
don't take this the wrong way but i want

960
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:07,520
i'd rather have senator gillibrand

961
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:11,200
senator rubio those guys you know warner

962
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:17,910
bob said members that had the classified

963
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,440
briefings were gobsmacked that's the

964
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,680
word gobsmacked thanks walker

965
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,880
um

966
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,400
i wish joe

967
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,359
that's me or someone else would

968
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:29,280
interview dr ken johnson who mapped the

969
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,680
moon and saw the scrubbing by nasa i

970
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,920
listened to many ken johnson interviews

971
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,200
back in the day

972
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:38,000
uh mule so i know who he is

973
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:38,880
um

974
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,920
i'm trying to think if there was

975
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,359
anything else he talked about that was

976
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,200
really controversial that made me avoid

977
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:44,800
him i don't remember

978
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:46,160
i remember he would go on coast to coast

979
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,280
with art bell

980
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,839
and with richard hoagland and i think

981
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,800
hogan

982
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,880
talked about what johnston had found on

983
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,400
certain nasa photos

984
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,640
that that johnston said he was working

985
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,400
at a university and nasa was going to

986
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,839
throw them out i think they were like

987
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:01,200
yeah just toss them in the garbage and

988
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:03,200
he saved them really high quality

989
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:05,119
pictures

990
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:11,829
and tom says the government history of

991
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,599
ufos blue book report number 14

992
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,040
condor report negative robert's

993
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,560
important negative roswell report

994
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,280
negative roswell report two negative gao

995
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:23,040
investigation negative

996
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,320
was gao the one with um

997
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,079
stephen schiff congressman shift where

998
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:29,920
they told him sorry the roswell records

999
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:32,560
were destroyed sorry or they're missing

1000
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:38,230
did somebody say berchette still thinks

1001
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,680
trump won the last election somebody

1002
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,960
said that i don't know if that's true or

1003
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,400
not but

1004
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,320
let's not be true beggars can't be

1005
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,160
choosers david we'll take all the

1006
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,839
support we can get

1007
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:50,000
we just don't talk about the other stuff

1008
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,520
as long as he's not as long as he's not

1009
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:52,880
telling us that

1010
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,320
vaccines will implant a chip in you

1011
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,599
i think i'm okay with him if he

1012
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,320
supported trump uh people know i most

1013
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:03,200
people know how how i felt about that

1014
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,880
but i don't even want to go there

1015
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,119
um left versus right

1016
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,880
i know that's not a left versus right

1017
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,800
issue but i'm trying not to get

1018
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,040
political whatsoever

1019
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,960
i don't think she was iced by the leader

1020
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,400
of the senate the leader of the senate

1021
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,400
is warner i believe

1022
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:21,440
he's the majority leader leader he he's

1023
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,079
supported ufos and then rubio's right

1024
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:25,680
below that

1025
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,000
yes steven shift um so

1026
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:30,800
schiff sorry

1027
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:33,839
so this was

1028
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,960
this was today i retweeted it with audio

1029
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,200
oh i want to this is some of the stuff

1030
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,440
that's going on with what's with carry

1031
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:43,839
on from mufon which i do want to cover

1032
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:46,720
but here is birch berthett's

1033
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:49,520
letter to the under secretary moultrie

1034
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:50,720
he goes

1035
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,240
and he put this up on twitter so he's

1036
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,480
been pretty active

1037
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,000
with showing people i don't know if he

1038
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,760
thinks it's a winning political effort

1039
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,839
about and i'm not sure if this it i'm

1040
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:01,440
not sure this is a winning political

1041
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,710
with ufo twitter it is obviously

1042
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,000
i don't think it's negative though i

1043
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,560
don't think although i've seen

1044
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:14,320
i've seen other people say you know why

1045
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,680
are you wasting time on this when we

1046
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:17,440
have kobe we have climate change you

1047
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:18,960
know why are you playing around with

1048
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,520
ufos that's why i think

1049
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:24,079
the pop the injury aspect should be

1050
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,520
talked about a little more without

1051
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:27,119
scaring people like hey we need to take

1052
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:29,200
care of our citizens so this this we

1053
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,640
should this should be a priority

1054
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,480
that's just one angle so he goes dear

1055
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,240
under secretary moultrie thank you for

1056
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,160
your and this is bercet thank you for

1057
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,079
your ongoing attention he posted this

1058
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,400
today to the presence of uap in our

1059
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:44,160
airspace i write today requesting

1060
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,240
increased transparency into the matter

1061
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,040
the june 21st preliminary assessment

1062
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,640
released by the o

1063
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,560
office of dni

1064
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,640
provided a few answers and raised more

1065
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:56,640
questions the american people deserve to

1066
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,560
know whether we are alone in our galaxy

1067
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,160
of course

1068
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:04,160
we may not even be visited by something

1069
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:05,520
it may be something that's on this

1070
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,079
planet none of these folks none of the

1071
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:10,240
scientists none of the articles i read

1072
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,560
ever mentioned that possibility you have

1073
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:14,880
lou mentioning it

1074
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,319
but it's always mentioned as e.t

1075
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,640
so i was disappointed that the uap task

1076
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,359
force lacked the sufficient data for an

1077
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,920
all-encompassing analysis

1078
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:28,000
i'm not sure what data they lacked i'm

1079
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,520
sure they don't i know they don't have

1080
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,800
everything but

1081
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,760
what was

1082
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,839
did did when members of congress were

1083
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,520
briefed did they get to see everything

1084
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,640
that the uap task force had i hope so

1085
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,400
but we all know the good stuff is not

1086
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:42,160
there the good stuff is very deeper than

1087
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,760
that

1088
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,000
before i forget

1089
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,319
somebody who did have access to certain

1090
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:49,839
data said

1091
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:52,720
the data that they saw did not show that

1092
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,280
ufos are coming from deep space it would

1093
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:57,200
it would point towards something

1094
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,240
something

1095
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:00,720
between the moon and here like nothing

1096
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:03,280
beyond the moon nothing deep space that

1097
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:05,119
doesn't mean data doesn't exist that

1098
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,800
shows objects are coming in from deep

1099
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,240
spec space

1100
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,000
it's just that they had not seen that

1101
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,240
data and this person had access to data

1102
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,160
that we do not have access to so just

1103
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,640
keep that in mind it doesn't mean there

1104
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:18,079
aren't objects coming from another

1105
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,319
planet that may be going that may be

1106
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:22,000
part of what's going on and maybe all of

1107
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,200
what's going on

1108
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,280
but at the surface level

1109
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:27,599
more more classified than we have access

1110
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,200
to the the data does not suggest that

1111
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,200
so

1112
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,960
american people deserve to know whether

1113
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,720
we are alone in our galaxy so i was

1114
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,480
disappointed that the uap task force

1115
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,079
lacked the sufficient data for an

1116
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:42,480
all-encompassing analysis it is

1117
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,400
incredibly problematic that we still do

1118
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,560
not know if these uaps are simply

1119
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,880
airborne clutter advanced adversarial

1120
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,119
systems or even advanced technologies

1121
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,440
not of this world however

1122
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,960
i am encouraged

1123
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:57,200
that the newly established

1124
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,599
airborne object identification and

1125
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,760
management executive council is

1126
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,160
transitioning the uap task force to the

1127
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,240
airborne object identification and

1128
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,560
management synchronization group

1129
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,160
ugh

1130
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:11,520
i don't

1131
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,400
i mean

1132
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,520
i don't know why the gila brand

1133
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,200
amendment isn't mentioned in this letter

1134
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,040
that's kind of surprising

1135
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:19,599
he says it's my hope that the aoi msg

1136
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,960
will build off the preliminary

1137
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,720
assessment by collecting and analyzing

1138
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,880
all relevant data so we can get to the

1139
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,800
bottom of this phenomena

1140
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,960
therefore i am requesting that the

1141
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,440
aoi msgd

1142
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,760
or the ao mexic brief members of

1143
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,280
congress on their findings in a

1144
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:37,440
classified setting followed by a public

1145
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,319
hearing before the relevant committees

1146
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,920
thank you for your service for the

1147
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,280
america to the american people i look

1148
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,280
forward to hearing from you soon

1149
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,960
so he's requesting that they brief

1150
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,359
congress yeah let them do that uh as far

1151
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,160
as a public hearing i asked doug johnson

1152
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,319
about that it's not so simple as

1153
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,400
bert calling for for a public hearing

1154
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,480
that moore has to go he has to get

1155
00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:00,000
support from some senior senior

1156
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,440
leadership

1157
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:03,040
but you know i'm happy he wrote the

1158
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,560
letter

1159
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,400
and

1160
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,240
he also

1161
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,640
he was quoted back in the summer it was

1162
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,599
june

1163
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,400
and he also gave an interview

1164
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,960
i have the whole the whole tmz interview

1165
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:18,720
which i will play here with audio but

1166
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,800
i'll look at questions in a second i'm

1167
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,920
sure i'm probably gonna have to get

1168
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:22,960
through commercials first in the

1169
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,550
msg i know hemisg is not good for us

1170
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:32,079
let's see

1171
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:33,440
all right once the commercial's over

1172
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:38,470
tim had a letter to congress as well and

1173
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,630
i'm not a youtube addict but i wish you

1174
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:45,440
were

1175
00:44:08,040 --> 00:43:58,630
so this is from

1176
00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:38,309
[Music]

1177
00:44:38,319 --> 00:45:10,710
um

1178
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,069
no audio aye aye so when i open up all

1179
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,520
right i can't so i can't play the whole

1180
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,119
thing

1181
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,040
darn it all right i'll play i'll i'll

1182
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,960
play the clip that was on twitter it's

1183
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,319
not the whole clip but at least you'll

1184
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:24,480
be able to hear it

1185
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:31,030
if i can find it so

1186
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,480
somebody was saying

1187
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,800
they wish i would be more on

1188
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,640
youtube but

1189
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,560
i mean this is i'm trying to put all of

1190
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,720
my twitter stuff i'm going through it's

1191
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,480
hard to do it every day like this but

1192
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,960
i'll try my best

1193
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:46,560
there's a clip of

1194
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:48,800
berkshire

1195
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:51,760
and of course i can't find it right now

1196
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,720
it only lets you do

1197
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:55,680
i can

1198
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:58,079
i'm sorry guys

1199
00:46:03,750 --> 00:45:59,760
i'm gonna have to come back to it if you

1200
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,510
in the meantime ask questions and i will

1201
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,960
pull this up

1202
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,280
on another

1203
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,520
another um

1204
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:13,599
browser and i think i can get audio that

1205
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,470
i'm trying to think what else went on

1206
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,400
today

1207
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:22,240
there's still talk

1208
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,390
psyop and lou and

1209
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,030
let's see if i can pull this up right

1210
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:37,270
you should be able to hear audio when i

1211
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:53,030
problem is that is not the audio

1212
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,750
there we go

1213
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:02,400
you guys have any questions

1214
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:11,510
yeah have a night just great night picks

1215
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,270
and

1216
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:19,589
tell me congressman i know right now um

1217
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,430
just tell me tell me if you hear that

1218
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,920
and when he's going to speak to um putin

1219
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,359
that he's talking about he's going to

1220
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,640
ask him about the ufo thing

1221
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,920
i think that's ridiculous if the

1222
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,319
russians had ufo technology i mean they

1223
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,160
would own us right now they used to say

1224
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,760
that they've heard people talk about how

1225
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,280
the nazis had it in the second world

1226
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,880
world if they did they would have won

1227
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,200
that's ridiculous it has to be something

1228
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,280
that's it's out of our galaxy it just

1229
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,480
has to be if

1230
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,359
it in fact is real it comes from your

1231
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,200
you have always been a straight shooter

1232
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,920
it's been like i know when um it's been

1233
00:48:01,589 --> 00:47:59,839
bipartisan but the one thing i've

1234
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,599
noticed is

1235
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,520
it doesn't matter which president it is

1236
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,680
nobody ever talks about the uh they

1237
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,040
always say they're gonna do something

1238
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,960
about and then they get in office and

1239
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:10,480
and honestly i thought trump was gonna

1240
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,680
do something he's gonna release the

1241
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,359
files but you know they release these

1242
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,280
files are redacted it's just a big blob

1243
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,920
of block white out and uh clearly

1244
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,920
something's going on that we can't

1245
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,640
handle i mean ufos were in the bible

1246
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,800
read ezekiel it talks about the wheel

1247
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,880
flying around so i mean

1248
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,319
they've been around since we've been

1249
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,240
around and um somebody needs to come up

1250
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,920
with some answers so even when

1251
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,200
something's supposed to be released

1252
00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:36,000
coming up in a few weeks or months what

1253
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,599
do you think is going to be in that i

1254
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,599
don't believe it i i think roswell was

1255
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,839
covered up i think um

1256
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,440
you know more people believe in ufos and

1257
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,960
believe in congress for good reason

1258
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,640
because of the jack lake stuff we do

1259
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,480
like that we we talk about we're going

1260
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,079
to release it and then we never do or we

1261
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,480
release something that's so redacted

1262
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:54,880
that it's just ridiculous the air force

1263
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,520
had a release of uh on roswell which was

1264
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,400
the big the big deal i think from 48 and

1265
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,640
the big cover up there and the guy that

1266
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,400
did it was a smart aleck and he kind of

1267
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,079
smirked the whole time and nobody took

1268
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,599
it serious they ought to take it serious

1269
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,960
american public wants to know and

1270
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,880
frankly we deserve to know i think at

1271
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:12,480
some point it's gonna it's gonna happen

1272
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,680
man

1273
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,960
i think they're gonna release that i

1274
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,880
think somebody's going to release stuff

1275
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,839
that the

1276
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,680
kennedy assassination files are going to

1277
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,760
do it all but but we haven't had a

1278
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,599
president with enough guts to do it just

1279
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,790
so that is for chet and that was summer

1280
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,079
that was june 15th that was posted

1281
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:34,240
and

1282
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,680
as far as you know he said it has to be

1283
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,839
from another galaxy well it does not

1284
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:40,319
have to be from another galaxy and

1285
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,240
you know he talks about real quick it's

1286
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,119
like a pet peeve of mine he talks about

1287
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,960
ezekiel's wheel

1288
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:48,800
which people say

1289
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:51,359
that's in the bible ezekiel's wheel is

1290
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,480
um

1291
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,640
a ufo but i don't think ezekiel's whale

1292
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,359
was a ufo i think ezekiel's wheel is a

1293
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,119
representation of the four corners of

1294
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:00,960
the zodiac when they describe the beings

1295
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,960
and i put a link on twitter i'll put it

1296
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,040
in in the show notes i'll i'll also put

1297
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,960
in the show notes the links to the

1298
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,800
articles that i'm reading from

1299
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:11,040
um we're not done reading from articles

1300
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:12,720
because i want to read the billy the

1301
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,510
yeah well the one good thing about trump

1302
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,839
and i was sorry i wasn't i'm not a trump

1303
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,480
fan but and as far as

1304
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:26,640
this

1305
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,520
i think

1306
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:29,680
was interviewed i'm not really sure what

1307
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,309
i'd rather interview i would rather

1308
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:36,319
interview gillibrand that's that's my

1309
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,440
target

1310
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,040
that's who i want to hear from i want to

1311
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,720
hear from her she has not spoken out in

1312
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,559
any in-depth interview

1313
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,319
i want to know if she was briefed on

1314
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,319
crash retrievals or if her staffers were

1315
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:48,480
briefed on crash retrievals what could

1316
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,079
she tell us about

1317
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,000
uh trump did nothing

1318
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,760
the same thing our ex presidents have

1319
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,280
done but one

1320
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,280
good thing trump did and

1321
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:58,960
not a trump fan but he did give an

1322
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,359
interview to stephanopoulos in the oval

1323
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,839
office about ufos and said he was

1324
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:05,599
briefed even though when he asked if he

1325
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:08,400
believed his pilots were seeing ufos he

1326
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,920
said not particularly so yeah

1327
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,680
did not like that but at least he did

1328
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,760
that but yeah i mean i was hoping he

1329
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,839
would put out some more information

1330
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,520
um

1331
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,040
so

1332
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,599
what else was talked about today on

1333
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:25,440
twitter here's an article that ross

1334
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:26,480
coltar

1335
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,920
put out

1336
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,960
um

1337
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:31,280
somebody who used to be

1338
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:35,599
with the office of the um department

1339
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:36,880
the dni

1340
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,400
sorry uh science and technology

1341
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,559
director of national intelligence and uh

1342
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,000
they were talking about basically

1343
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:46,079
talking about the report

1344
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:47,680
at the end of the article this was in

1345
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:49,359
psychology today which is a mainstream

1346
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:50,720
psychology

1347
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,440
magazine online i think they also have a

1348
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,440
physical magazine saying and at the end

1349
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,480
he says

1350
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,960
uh somewhere appears

1351
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:00,640
someone somewhere appears to have

1352
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,599
science that is out of this world so

1353
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,520
um that's that's great to see somebody

1354
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:07,119
like that he was like i said former

1355
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,720
pentagon officers director of national

1356
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:11,119
intelligence science and technology the

1357
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:12,240
head of that

1358
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,440
department

1359
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,359
talking about the the june report the

1360
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,599
180-day report so that's another

1361
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:19,520
scientist

1362
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,480
um and that's what i asked dean earlier

1363
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,559
i said

1364
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:27,119
i asked dean johnson who knows how

1365
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,839
washington dc dc works i said how if

1366
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,680
bercht calls for public hearings like he

1367
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,720
did

1368
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,240
what needs to take place for that to

1369
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,800
happen and dean said a chair of a panel

1370
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,640
with jurisdiction would decide and

1371
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:40,880
probably need to sign off from top

1372
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,280
leadership of the house but hearings

1373
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:45,680
without adequate groundwork

1374
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,359
he thinks that's reckless it's a

1375
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,839
half-baked quasi quasi hearings in the

1376
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,839
60s that led to the disastrous

1377
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,920
disastrous condom report

1378
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:55,839
he thinks focusing now should be on

1379
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,400
legislation gillibrand and rubio i'm

1380
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:00,800
fine with that i mean i do want to see

1381
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,880
public hearings at some point

1382
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:04,880
um

1383
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,200
i'm fine focusing on legislation the

1384
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:08,960
lives of all of us

1385
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,200
and for the umpteenth time in as many

1386
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,200
years the lives of so somebody posted

1387
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,839
this from 66. it's a

1388
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:17,280
and once again let me know if there's no

1389
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:18,319
audio

1390
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,720
a 1966 cbs tbs cbs tv special it's only

1391
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,319
a minute all of us

1392
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:26,559
and for the umpteenth time in as many

1393
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,880
years the air force called before a

1394
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,640
congressional committee said it was

1395
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,880
hiding nothing air force secretary

1396
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,960
harold brown we have

1397
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:36,880
not been hiding anything

1398
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:39,280
the investigations have been

1399
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,480
made public the explanations of those

1400
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,640
where there is a clear explanation have

1401
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,160
been made public the hearing this

1402
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:48,960
morning was public for just that reason

1403
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:51,839
in those cases where for lack of data or

1404
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:54,839
lack of a convincing hypothesis

1405
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:57,920
the sighting has been kept in the

1406
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,240
unidentified category we've been

1407
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,559
perfectly willing to say that too

1408
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,040
but if the air force had nothing to hide

1409
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,280
frank manor the michigan farmer who had

1410
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,520
brought in the first report was caught

1411
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,640
in the middle

1412
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:12,880
he was mad well you can look at here

1413
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,960
look beer bottle's thrown look at my

1414
00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:16,079
windshield

1415
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:17,280
what would you think if somebody was

1416
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,640
throwing beer bottles at your house

1417
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,599
standing out in the middle of road

1418
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:20,720
screaming

1419
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,760
uh

1420
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,440
you nut they're fantastic and all that

1421
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,440
what would you think are you sorry now

1422
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,040
that you did tell people what you saw

1423
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,920
yes i am i am i'm sorry because i it

1424
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:31,839
not that it's not the truth but it's

1425
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:34,240
just the idea that

1426
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:40,789
and

1427
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:43,920
getting to some of your comments

1428
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:46,640
i can back up a little bit which

1429
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,069
yeah as far as rubio

1430
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,200
i'm i'm extreme left so

1431
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,720
it doesn't matter rubio's been pretty

1432
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,640
vocal about this and i support that i

1433
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,920
don't know maybe he thinks it's a

1434
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:05,440
winning

1435
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,280
if we get to see it he will he'll

1436
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,119
realize that the world not just

1437
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,640
americans will realize how important

1438
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:16,480
this is and maybe gillibrand is doing

1439
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,079
that too i don't know she ran for

1440
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,160
president in 2020 she's probably going

1441
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,640
to run again and i think rubio will run

1442
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:25,119
and like the perfect scenario is

1443
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:27,119
something leaks out that convinces

1444
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,319
enough people that there's something

1445
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,640
serious about this

1446
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:33,359
and then they start battling on how much

1447
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,880
how much who could give the most

1448
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,880
disclosure for ufos let's have a

1449
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:38,400
political battle

1450
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:41,760
that's my uh my dream

1451
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,520
so i'm sorry i'm trying to keep up with

1452
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,680
the comments it's hard

1453
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,440
to go back as far as

1454
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:49,119
trump thinking that

1455
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:52,880
what he was shown was chinese drones

1456
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:54,799
yeah i know what green street thinks

1457
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:57,520
there's no evidence

1458
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,119
that i know of that

1459
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:01,520
the west coast events specifically where

1460
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:02,720
drones

1461
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:06,079
uh 2019 a person i spoke to

1462
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,839
basically said

1463
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,680
and you could say i was given

1464
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:11,119
disinformation if you want but i was

1465
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,480
basically told

1466
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,319
if it was china or russia we would tell

1467
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:16,000
you we're not going to go out of our way

1468
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:17,839
to lie like this

1469
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,240
they think those objects are totally

1470
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:22,880
unexplained true unknowns so the west

1471
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,829
and let's see let me take that down

1472
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,760
i'm a classic liberal or whatever people

1473
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,599
want to label me today rubio is after

1474
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,960
the presidency and

1475
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,440
would talk to a point yeah i think he's

1476
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,640
that's fine

1477
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:42,480
i think this supersedes any political

1478
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:44,000
talk

1479
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:46,640
like i said i'm pretty far left on most

1480
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,839
stuff not everything most stuff

1481
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:51,200
and

1482
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:52,799
let me get back to some of the tweets

1483
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,480
also one of the articles i do want to

1484
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,359
get to is billy cox which he wrote he's

1485
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:00,640
the most underappreciated undervalued

1486
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,720
writer reporter on these subjects he's

1487
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:04,640
somebody who did a lot of work on wilson

1488
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,760
davis

1489
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,160
um

1490
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,599
let me get to his article i'm trying to

1491
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:11,680
see if there's any more videos here's

1492
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:14,880
something that jeff tweeted he said

1493
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,640
he goes thanks miss thank you mr

1494
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,240
burchette i just received a call while

1495
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:20,240
driving from my senator here in the

1496
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,520
midwest

1497
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,680
that he was holding a live town hall so

1498
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:25,920
i called in and asked about his position

1499
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,319
on uap transparency he also was

1500
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:30,480
open-minded minded and supportive of

1501
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,920
ongoing uap efforts encouraging i hope

1502
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:35,359
hopefully there's a recording of that

1503
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,720
usually i don't think they always tape

1504
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,640
their town halls i would love to hear

1505
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,720
that but yeah the more open-mindedness

1506
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,480
the better obviously

1507
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,000
um

1508
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,359
let's see yes somebody when i said that

1509
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,440
ezekiel's wheel represents the zodiac

1510
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:50,400
they're like

1511
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,760
you know they they were like are you

1512
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:53,119
serious but i'm not talking about

1513
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:55,040
horoscopes i'm talking about if you if

1514
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,119
you know about the great year

1515
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,960
uh plato talked about the great year

1516
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:00,640
there's a great documentary the great

1517
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:01,440
year

1518
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,319
from james earl jones he narrates it

1519
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:06,319
and

1520
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:08,799
it's basically there's a 25 000 20 i

1521
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,839
think it's like 26 000 years 25 920

1522
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,960
years

1523
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,720
it goes in a big circle procession the

1524
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,720
earth is angled i think at 23 and a half

1525
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,680
degrees and if you look up in the sky

1526
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,520
you look at a star it'll go around in a

1527
00:58:26,589 --> 00:58:24,000
big circle and it'll take 26 000 years

1528
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,599
and you divide that into 12 which is

1529
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:29,359
2160 years each age so you got the age

1530
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,599
of taurus the age of pisces the age of

1531
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:33,680
aquarius that's what that is it's

1532
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,079
basically a way to keep track of time

1533
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:38,079
long form time

1534
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,200
so

1535
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,319
you know if there are certain things

1536
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:42,000
that are cyclical on this planet that's

1537
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:43,280
the way you would keep track of it

1538
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,559
whether or not that's why it's

1539
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:47,119
everywhere the zodiac is everywhere

1540
00:58:52,309 --> 00:58:49,440
around the globe and and the procession

1541
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:52,319
stuff is embedded in so many myths for

1542
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:54,000
thousands of years why were they so

1543
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:55,359
obsessed with that

1544
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,680
that's something that may maybe it's

1545
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,040
connected to what we're dealing with on

1546
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:01,280
this planet as far as ufos i don't know

1547
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,480
but it's something i really have an

1548
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:04,880
interest in um

1549
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,640
yeah i'm not gonna put up

1550
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,880
criticism of rubio i'm just i can

1551
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,319
criticize there's so many politicians i

1552
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:12,240
can criticize

1553
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,200
and i was not a rubio fan but he spoke

1554
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:17,680
out about it so

1555
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,760
right i'm trying to see what else let me

1556
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,599
read the billy cox

1557
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:23,599
article let me get rid of this

1558
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,520
because i said billy cox phil did a

1559
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:27,760
great job

1560
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:30,160
give me one second let's see

1561
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,839
really here we go

1562
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:35,920
okay billy cox

1563
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:38,319
used to work for the sarasota

1564
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,480
herald tribune and he had a blog

1565
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:44,000
i'm drawing a blank what his blog was

1566
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,440
called but his big thing is he calls

1567
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,760
this the great taboo ufos

1568
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:49,359
uh there's there's some things i do not

1569
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:50,799
agree with in this article which i will

1570
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,240
point out

1571
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,160
not from billy though

1572
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,000
uh congress is on the brink of passing

1573
01:00:00,630 --> 00:59:58,079
well maybe some things congress is on

1574
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:00,640
the brink of passing

1575
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:02,880
legislation

1576
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,640
that could break the military

1577
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,640
intelligence military

1578
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,400
military intelligence stranglehold on

1579
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,200
the truth about ufos will lawmakers have

1580
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:13,359
the resolve to pull the trigger

1581
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,319
and i've

1582
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,920
i think billy's pretty encouraged that

1583
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,720
this is going on right now um

1584
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:21,359
like i said he did some amazing work on

1585
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,640
wilson davis he has quotes from

1586
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,720
oak shannon who was connected to wilson

1587
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:29,119
davis and he interviewed tom wilson who

1588
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,079
gave billy a really detailed denial

1589
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:34,480
about meeting with eric davis back in

1590
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:37,440
2002 which i don't believe

1591
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:38,799
um

1592
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,599
but eric davis i mean

1593
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,920
billy cox just did him did amazing work

1594
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,520
you know just calling as many people as

1595
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,040
as he could who were listed in the

1596
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:48,960
wilson davis documents

1597
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,549
uh yeah just one quote

1598
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,920
coin exchange because i know i'm gonna

1599
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,760
lose your quote if people hear a comment

1600
01:01:01,190 --> 01:00:59,680
ezekiel's wheel was under the control of

1601
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,200
four angels nothing to do with the

1602
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,680
zodiac okay

1603
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:05,839
i can't prove that um i can't prove my

1604
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:08,160
zodiac theory either but if i will link

1605
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,440
i'll link to the article about the

1606
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:11,040
zodiac and people can read it and decide

1607
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:13,520
for themselves there's so much astro

1608
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:16,160
theology in the bible and other

1609
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:18,640
other um sacred texts it's not just the

1610
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,359
bible and like i said the zodiac i

1611
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,200
remember going to a church in

1612
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,760
norway in oslo it was outside of oslo

1613
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:28,400
and it was this giant rendition it was

1614
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,400
like a 3d it wasn't a drawing it was

1615
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:32,640
like a physical object and it was the

1616
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,240
zodiac it was in the middle of the

1617
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,839
church and i asked the person who worked

1618
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,640
there

1619
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:38,640
my girlfriend at the time i said ask him

1620
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,480
what is this what is this why is the

1621
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,640
zodiac in the middle of your church and

1622
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:44,720
the guy the guy answered he said he

1623
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:46,480
didn't know he probably wasn't like the

1624
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:48,079
leader of the church but somebody who

1625
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,319
worked there did not know the zodiac is

1626
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:52,640
everywhere and in

1627
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:55,039
down in town time town square in the

1628
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,039
middle of oslo you look up at this clock

1629
01:02:02,390 --> 01:01:58,640
oh look it's the zodiac it was

1630
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:04,390
so

1631
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:07,119
we're talking about

1632
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:09,920
robert powell so robert powell

1633
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,319
works for

1634
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,640
the scu

1635
01:02:18,789 --> 01:02:16,880
the scientific coalition for this i

1636
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,799
don't know their exact name it's

1637
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:20,400
study of ufology and they're mentioned

1638
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:22,400
in the gila brand they're mentioned in

1639
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:23,440
the gillibrand

1640
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:24,880
legislation so

1641
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,839
so billy goes billy billy writes

1642
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,520
as he white as he waits to see if

1643
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,599
congress really will have the guts to

1644
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:33,119
alter the course of history and

1645
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,039
authorize an official

1646
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:37,359
no bull jive subpoena power

1647
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:39,599
investigation into ufos

1648
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:42,720
robert powell remembers being shocked in

1649
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,119
a good way when the news quietly broke

1650
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,799
last month

1651
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,720
i wasn't shocked but i was surprised i

1652
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:51,200
did not expect senator gillibrand what

1653
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,000
the hell where'd that come from

1654
01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:55,920
senator gillibrand's blockbuster

1655
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,440
addition to the ndaa was dead serious it

1656
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:01,280
pitched among other things bringing

1657
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:03,920
honest brokers into the discussion

1658
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,160
including the non-profit scientific

1659
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:09,200
coalition for uap studies scu there's

1660
01:03:12,789 --> 01:03:10,640
the name

1661
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,799
seu had no prior discussions with

1662
01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:14,240
government types

1663
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,599
says executive board member powell so

1664
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:19,520
how did the suu make it into

1665
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,720
gillibrand's amendment if they didn't

1666
01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:22,400
have any discussion with any government

1667
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,799
types that's really odd somebody

1668
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:26,640
somebody who was somebody who had the

1669
01:03:32,069 --> 01:03:29,359
ear of gillibrand obviously was aware of

1670
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:32,079
them and liked their work so they were

1671
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,119
mentioned as being part of that office

1672
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:37,599
um but they didn't have any contact with

1673
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:40,160
folks and and yet on november 4th there

1674
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:44,160
it was a radical proposal to establish a

1675
01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:46,799
formal ufo investigation office the

1676
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:48,880
anomaly surveillance tracking and

1677
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:51,440
resolution office astro

1678
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,160
if sanctioned scu would join astros

1679
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,400
aerial and trans medium phenomena

1680
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:59,039
advisory committee

1681
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:01,280
that pending committee is a fast company

1682
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:04,640
lit company list with seriously eclectic

1683
01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:08,640
credibility i.e nasa the faa the

1684
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,799
national academy of sciences the

1685
01:04:15,029 --> 01:04:12,799
national academy of engineering the

1686
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,039
national academy of medicine harvard

1687
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:17,200
harvard's galileo project the american

1688
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,280
institute of aeronautics

1689
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,680
astronautics and aeronautics

1690
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:23,839
montana state's optical technology

1691
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:25,760
center and the american society for

1692
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:28,240
photogra

1693
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:34,160
and remote sensing

1694
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:35,680
merry christmas

1695
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,160
billy has humor when he writes

1696
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,480
yes it's amazing we need gillibrand

1697
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,319
gillibrand villagram gila brands gila

1698
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:44,160
brand rubio

1699
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:45,599
quote

1700
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,359
from powell i never thought i would live

1701
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:50,079
to see it get this far i really didn't

1702
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,200
says powell

1703
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:53,200
co-author of the largely overlooked

1704
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:54,400
radar heavy

1705
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:57,520
spade work that exposed how a ufo flew

1706
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:00,160
over flew unchallenged over george w

1707
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:04,240
bush's texas ranch in 2008 while f-16

1708
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,480
fighters backed off and there's a link

1709
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:08,400
to the article there's a link to that

1710
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,039
paper by robert powell

1711
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,960
which i will put in the notes it's a

1712
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:14,799
very in-depth look

1713
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,079
at the case in stevensville texas

1714
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:20,160
did they say stevensville here

1715
01:05:24,309 --> 01:05:22,000
but it happened over it actually went

1716
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,319
over george w bush's ranch

1717
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:26,480
and it's some of the best work that sdu

1718
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:28,480
has done

1719
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:29,200
and

1720
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:33,839
curiosity at scu has since produced

1721
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:36,799
forensic analysis of some high profile

1722
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:39,920
cases most prominently the tic tac

1723
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,440
from 2004 and the aguadilla surprise

1724
01:05:47,829 --> 01:05:45,280
with video footage capturing trans

1725
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:47,839
medium ufo behavior off puerto rico in

1726
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:53,430
and any comments about this i'm just

1727
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:00,470
yeah we'll see if if the amendment will

1728
01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:02,160
be watered down you'll i don't know

1729
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,880
we'll see

1730
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:06,480
uh skinwalker

1731
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:08,480
i don't think the folks in congress are

1732
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:10,319
focused on skin or skin walker

1733
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,079
whatsoever but if they care about

1734
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:14,559
protecting uh people they're

1735
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:16,079
american people from whatever these

1736
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:17,280
objects are

1737
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:19,039
hell if they if they need to argue this

1738
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:19,920
is a

1739
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:21,599
black technology then make the argument

1740
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,960
then later on if it's not black

1741
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:24,799
technology well at least we we're

1742
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,799
actually studying this and helping

1743
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:28,480
people who are injured like i said

1744
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,160
people have died from having up close

1745
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,720
encounters with these objects

1746
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:34,880
ufos and governments people and i will

1747
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:37,119
link to this one too

1748
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:38,720
um

1749
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,720
i need to read it i have it i've seen

1750
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,240
quotes i've seen interviews with some of

1751
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:44,240
the people involved

1752
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,640
michael vi told me about that book i had

1753
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:48,400
never heard about it tom until he told

1754
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,640
me i'm like how is this book new to me

1755
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:52,799
it's such a great book i mean

1756
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,359
it's all government all government

1757
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:57,839
documents and right tom i think it's all

1758
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:58,839
government

1759
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:01,039
documents um

1760
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,160
it's something if you're strictly

1761
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:06,480
conservative and just want to stick

1762
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:09,440
to government documents

1763
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:12,240
i think that's the book to go for and

1764
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,950
i believe the bill authorizes

1765
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:21,680
money for the paranormal no doesn't it

1766
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:23,920
it authorizes money for a field office

1767
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:26,319
to study human effects

1768
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:28,559
and if they study yeah tom says about

1769
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:30,319
that book

1770
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:32,720
history of the government connection

1771
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:35,680
i'll link to it but gillibrand does not

1772
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:38,319
authorize money for the paranormal but

1773
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:39,839
if they have a field office and they go

1774
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,280
out investigate

1775
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,119
cases and there are people who had close

1776
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,960
encounters

1777
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:46,480
they're going to encounter people who

1778
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:48,720
have had paranormal or paranormal

1779
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,680
experiences and as comp kelleher said

1780
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:53,440
if you follow these witnesses for a few

1781
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,359
days you're probably not going to get

1782
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,520
those stories if you follow them for a

1783
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,880
few weeks

1784
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:00,960
a few months a few years he goes that's

1785
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:03,039
when the stories come out as time goes

1786
01:08:05,589 --> 01:08:04,720
on after their encounter and then they

1787
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,599
also

1788
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,280
they'll open up more as time goes on

1789
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:09,200
because they do not want to talk about

1790
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,559
they don't want to talk about the stuff

1791
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,559
because even people in ufology have a

1792
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:14,640
problem with it but it's happening it's

1793
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,679
been happening for a long time so

1794
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,199
anyway let me get back back to this

1795
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:20,960
article

1796
01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:23,600
since the erosion of the stigma began in

1797
01:08:28,749 --> 01:08:27,040
december 20 uh december of 2017 which is

1798
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,759
the new york times article

1799
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,640
multi-disciplinary scientists have been

1800
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,880
flocking to scu in hopes of bringing

1801
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,719
experience and intuition to bear on the

1802
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:36,080
puzzle

1803
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,080
we've got about 170 members now and

1804
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:40,319
about a third have phds in everything

1805
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:43,040
from physics to chemistry and astronomy

1806
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,319
powell says

1807
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:46,400
and we haven't even tried to recruit

1808
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:47,440
people

1809
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:55,349
what's his name

1810
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:57,759
will not will the other person who i

1811
01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,239
know at scu

1812
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,759
drawing a blank but he lives down in

1813
01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:03,520
alabama

1814
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:08,799
also at aerospace

1815
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,080
so they're not too far from each other

1816
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:14,960
and i'm drawing a blank anyway

1817
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:17,440
powell co-author of ufos in government

1818
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:19,359
the book that tom brought up which is a

1819
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,400
book

1820
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:22,880
that everybody should read

1821
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,400
and i'm telling you that without reading

1822
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,319
it because the people who i know like

1823
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:28,239
michael vi and tom

1824
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:30,239
are two top-notch people if they say

1825
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:31,920
read a book and i've seen i have the

1826
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:33,520
book i've gone through it i've seen

1827
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:35,199
lectures on the book and what was pulled

1828
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,560
from the book

1829
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:38,400
certain you know certain quotes i'm like

1830
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,279
i had

1831
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,600
no idea that quote existed so

1832
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,759
it's it's a very important book in my

1833
01:09:47,510 --> 01:09:45,600
opinion as far as i can say without

1834
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:47,520
actually reading it but i trust tom and

1835
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:49,199
i trust michael

1836
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,799
co-author of ufos of government the

1837
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:52,799
granular history of how the us wound up

1838
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,360
in the gordian nod it's in now powell

1839
01:10:00,310 --> 01:09:57,840
says scu can bring the long view to the

1840
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,320
table for congressional audiences

1841
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:02,960
if this pending milestone comes to pass

1842
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,480
the ndaa

1843
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:06,880
awaits a vote maybe this week

1844
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:09,280
but even if gillibrand's add-on survives

1845
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,960
getting federal institutions to

1846
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:13,199
cooperate on these previously forbidden

1847
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:15,520
matters is bound to test the rigor of

1848
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:16,480
political

1849
01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:19,760
folks playing the short game

1850
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:21,920
and like i said billy's been at this for

1851
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:23,920
a really long time folks should sign up

1852
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,520
for his just sign up for his email

1853
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:28,080
alerts when he gets a new article out

1854
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,840
he

1855
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,719
um

1856
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:32,159
he's one of the top people you just

1857
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,360
don't hear about him because he doesn't

1858
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:34,960
promote his stuff

1859
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,320
rarely he'll promote stuff very rare

1860
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:41,040
it's not kevin knuth um

1861
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:42,560
as far as

1862
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,600
this is the book that we're talking

1863
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:45,520
about i guess i'll i'll link to it in

1864
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:47,920
the in the cred in the um show notes

1865
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,719
it's not kevin knows scu it's um

1866
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:53,040
i can't believe i'm rich hoffman rich

1867
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,990
so the dog's gonna go crazy let's see

1868
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:01,840
i might have to stop another second just

1869
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:08,950
all right so

1870
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:16,950
ominously just last week

1871
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:18,000
in what appeared to be a good

1872
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:19,760
old-fashioned up yours to the

1873
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,000
congressional inquiry that's that's

1874
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:25,040
billy's humor there uh deputy secretary

1875
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,880
of defense kathleen hicks tried to turn

1876
01:11:31,189 --> 01:11:29,440
the bipartisan amendments flank

1877
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,199
following three quarters of a century

1878
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,199
without a coherent policy on ufo

1879
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:35,840
incursions into sovereign airspace just

1880
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:38,640
two days before the thanksgiving holiday

1881
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:40,159
the deputy secretary of defense

1882
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:41,600
announced the formation of something

1883
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,120
called the airborne object

1884
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,560
identification and management

1885
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,280
synchronization group

1886
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:49,280
take a big breath presented as the

1887
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:50,800
successor to the lightweight and

1888
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:53,920
congressionally mandated uap task force

1889
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:56,640
aoi msg is the basement hunchback

1890
01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:58,800
version of the gillibrand legislation

1891
01:12:02,709 --> 01:12:00,640
its mission statement according to the

1892
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,719
formal announcement is to coordinate

1893
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,480
military and intelligence efforts to

1894
01:12:11,070 --> 01:12:07,440
evaluate ufos with zero stated interest

1895
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:11,080
in looking at civilian uap incidents

1896
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,520
aoymsg makes no mention of including a

1897
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:16,080
civilian scientific advisory board no

1898
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,640
mention of briefings classified or

1899
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,560
otherwise to lawmakers

1900
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,400
at a monday press conference the

1901
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:24,880
dissembling chores fell to pentagon

1902
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:27,360
press secretary john kirby who tried to

1903
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,719
sell aoi msg as a routine housekeeping

1904
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:31,679
measure

1905
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,440
i can assure you

1906
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:35,600
kirby replied to a question about public

1907
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:38,480
accountability that our intention is to

1908
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,840
be as transparent about this as we can

1909
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,679
given that there will be national

1910
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:46,000
security considerations we will have to

1911
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,189
mind that's billy

1912
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,719
the most interesting line and by the way

1913
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,199
that was not an impersonation of kirby

1914
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:56,960
uh the most interesting language in the

1915
01:13:02,709 --> 01:12:59,840
aoi msg directive calls for figuring out

1916
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,719
how to prevent or mitigate any risks

1917
01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:04,719
posed by ufos

1918
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:07,600
prevent or mitigate hmm

1919
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,360
how might we do that

1920
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,000
open fire with classified pulse weapons

1921
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:14,400
and get boomeranged to smithereens in

1922
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,840
broad daylight

1923
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,000
hey can i please write that press

1924
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:20,880
release please anyway regardless of what

1925
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,719
happens with the bill powell says

1926
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:24,560
capitol hill still hasn't gone far

1927
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:25,440
enough

1928
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:27,520
not yet

1929
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:29,920
and he's quoting powell here in order to

1930
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,480
avoid another repeat of the past and

1931
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:34,719
powell somebody who's

1932
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:37,600
very well informed about the past

1933
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,440
congress really needs to take a look

1934
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:41,280
take an additional step that we haven't

1935
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,280
taken yet and that is they need to

1936
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:45,600
provide funds for academia to

1937
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:47,760
investigate the phenomenon

1938
01:13:51,110 --> 01:13:49,679
i totally agree i would love and i've

1939
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:51,120
said this and i'll continue to say that

1940
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:52,560
i would love for the government not to

1941
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:55,520
be involved in any of this except

1942
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:58,000
i want all of their data that's what i

1943
01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:59,920
want i want all the data to go to a

1944
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:02,640
private organization so we can study it

1945
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:05,520
study and have weep weekly or monthly

1946
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,280
updates monthly updates on what's going

1947
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:09,199
on and what's being found

1948
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,440
so

1949
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:13,600
that's what he's saying and he's saying

1950
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,280
provide funds for academia to

1951
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,600
investigate the phenomenon powell says

1952
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,679
from austin texas where he is not in

1953
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,159
academia because i've really kind of

1954
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:24,080
given up on any hope that the military

1955
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,840
and our government institutions will

1956
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,600
ever release all the information they

1957
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:29,760
have he may be right doesn't mean we

1958
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,229
we need to find out jeremy corbell

1959
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:39,120
mentioned a specific area excuse me

1960
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:40,880
specific area where

1961
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:42,880
this data warehouse exists and by the

1962
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,719
way the other day

1963
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:46,560
another depressing note

1964
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,199
uh an interview that calm kelleher did

1965
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:51,679
with the paracast he said that he thinks

1966
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:52,560
when

1967
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:54,640
the government went from physical files

1968
01:14:58,149 --> 01:14:56,159
over to digital that they may have

1969
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:58,159
gotten rid of a lot of ufo related

1970
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,520
information and that would be a disaster

1971
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:02,960
if that happened we'll never get that

1972
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:08,310
to wit in 2010

1973
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:09,679
and this is where we start getting some

1974
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,719
stuff i don't agree with but

1975
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,480
still a big fan of billy's and it's more

1976
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,080
of the quotes he's got he got from

1977
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,719
somebody in 2010 the advanced aerospace

1978
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,120
weapon system applications program

1979
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:23,120
submitted the results of its two-year 22

1980
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,560
million ufo study to defend to the dia

1981
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,159
where it's been closeted in the dark

1982
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:30,000
ever since and that makes the timing of

1983
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:31,840
the pentagon's unpronounceable

1984
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:35,679
unpronounceable aoi msg hoo-ha

1985
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,920
suspicious at best powell says

1986
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:41,360
they waited until the gila brand

1987
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:43,120
amendment came out before they moved on

1988
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:45,440
it powell says it's like they read the

1989
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:47,600
language of the bill and said wait a

1990
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,159
minute this is really detailed we won't

1991
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,560
have control of this anymore there's a

1992
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:54,560
picture of elizondo with powell in the

1993
01:16:02,630 --> 01:15:59,910
that's from 2019

1994
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,640
where the seo seo hosted

1995
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:03,840
uh

1996
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:06,960
lou and he spoke and i transcribed that

1997
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:09,440
entire interview lecture i transcribed

1998
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:11,360
an entire lecture it's on my website on

1999
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:13,120
my blog

2000
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:21,110
if you look at lukatsky's book and this

2001
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,199
is powell

2002
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:25,199
and lecatsky's book he means skinwalkers

2003
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,709
if you look at lakatsky's book it went

2004
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:32,320
through

2005
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:35,360
and it's likowski kelleher nap sorry

2006
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,440
it went through government review for 14

2007
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:39,440
months well it was 14 months because of

2008
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,600
kova that was a big a big reason why it

2009
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:43,120
took forever

2010
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,920
powell goes on it's poorly written

2011
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:48,080
you have no real idea what they cut out

2012
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,520
of it

2013
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:51,600
but you see this enormous appendix where

2014
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,320
they list all the reports they completed

2015
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,400
i mean i asked them about what you know

2016
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,400
was left out that they could talk about

2017
01:17:01,270 --> 01:17:00,080
um

2018
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,280
and they mentioned some of the things

2019
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:03,040
that were left out yeah there's no

2020
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,679
specifics but i guess they really can't

2021
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:07,679
tell you what was left out since they're

2022
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:09,040
not allowed to talk about it if they

2023
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:11,280
can't write about it so that's i assume

2024
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,560
if they couldn't put it in the book

2025
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:14,320
because it was too sensitive

2026
01:17:17,270 --> 01:17:15,679
then it would not be good for them to

2027
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:17,280
also talk about it so i really don't

2028
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:19,040
think it's poorly written i just think

2029
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:21,760
their hands are tied um the book could

2030
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:22,640
have been

2031
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,719
many more books they they couldn't

2032
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:26,159
include everything and i asked them

2033
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:27,600
about that when i interviewed nap and

2034
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,950
powell says the one thing i'd love to

2035
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,640
get my hands on was

2036
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,560
where they used an engineering software

2037
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,080
program to estimate flight

2038
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:40,560
characteristics and acceleration similar

2039
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:41,520
to

2040
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:43,280
and they say so in the book

2041
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:45,360
what we did on the nimitz case i would

2042
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:46,960
love to see those numbers but i'm just

2043
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,920
not optimistic i also asked kelleher if

2044
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:51,440
he thought any of that information would

2045
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:53,679
come out

2046
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:55,280
it was kind of non-committal i mean they

2047
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,320
talk about

2048
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,320
getting rid of all the names be because

2049
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:00,880
of privacy issues and hipaa hipaa issues

2050
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:02,320
but

2051
01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:03,760
robert bigelow is the one that needs to

2052
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:05,280
be asked that question and i don't have

2053
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,760
access to bigelow so

2054
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,520
the catskills book skin walkers at the

2055
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,440
pentagon co-authored by former ossap

2056
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:13,840
director and retired dia officer jim

2057
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,400
like james lakowsky provoked a clamor

2058
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,239
when it was published in october and

2059
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:20,320
confirmed with long-time researchers

2060
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:23,120
like mark rotager have suspected for

2061
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:24,560
years

2062
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:25,920
when i read the new york times story in

2063
01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:28,960
2017 one of my first thoughts was

2064
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:31,760
did they do a real in-depth scientific

2065
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:34,320
investigation and if so where's the

2066
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:36,640
report says the director of the center

2067
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:39,280
of ufos studies in chicago and now we

2068
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,880
learn from the book that yes they

2069
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,360
absolutely absolutely did do an in-depth

2070
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:45,760
investigation so where is that report

2071
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:47,920
we're not allowed to see it yeah exactly

2072
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:49,360
we all have that we all have that issue

2073
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,520
we all want to see the reports

2074
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:53,280
i don't know how we're going to get it

2075
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:55,520
even if they decide we have access to it

2076
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,880
and we can get access to it they have to

2077
01:19:01,270 --> 01:18:59,040
take all of those names out and you know

2078
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,280
and kelleher said that

2079
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:03,120
the stuff was like six feet high of

2080
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:04,880
binders in his office so it's a lot of

2081
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:06,880
work they have to they have to find

2082
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:09,600
somebody to take out all those names um

2083
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,880
but

2084
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,320
robert bagel is the one that needs to be

2085
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:13,679
asked about that

2086
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:16,239
he's he's the one that has proprietary

2087
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,000
you know the rights to that information

2088
01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:20,640
if it's not classified he can put it out

2089
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:21,920
but he just can't put it out and say

2090
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,760
here you go if there are names in there

2091
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:25,199
if people gave their information and

2092
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:27,440
shared their experiences with the

2093
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:28,880
understanding that their names would not

2094
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:35,830
so far however the most bizarre contents

2095
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:38,080
of the let katsky book subtitled an

2096
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,520
insider's account of the secret

2097
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,280
government ufo program

2098
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:42,960
have stayed under the radar of

2099
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:45,600
mainstream media coverage says rohdager

2100
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:47,920
and that's probably a good thing at

2101
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,480
least until after congress takes action

2102
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,600
on the gillibrand amendment

2103
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,440
i'm sure there are people

2104
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:57,520
in gillibrand's office

2105
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:59,440
who know about some of the weird stuff

2106
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:00,960
that was reported if they're talking

2107
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:02,640
about health related effects they

2108
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:05,600
probably have an idea of the other stuff

2109
01:20:08,310 --> 01:20:06,800
and if they don't want to talk about it

2110
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:08,320
right now

2111
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:10,159
get this passed all right that's that's

2112
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,430
and then we can deal with that stuff

2113
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,199
later i think it's something that needs

2114
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,880
to be talked about i mean if you want to

2115
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:20,320
understand what's going on you just

2116
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,679
can't study nuts and bolts in my opinion

2117
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:25,199
so he continues i'm worried about

2118
01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:27,679
blowback he says when it becomes widely

2119
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:29,360
known about what's in there i will be

2120
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:31,040
concerned because it doesn't present a

2121
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,159
lot of good hard ufo data they don't

2122
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:36,400
give out a lot of real names

2123
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:37,440
well

2124
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,880
they had to take out names for anybody

2125
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:40,400
who was still active in the government

2126
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,400
or the military so or the world of

2127
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,480
intelligence uh there are some real

2128
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:46,560
names in that book if people

2129
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:48,560
if people look and google there are some

2130
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:50,239
real names

2131
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:52,560
there's no documents are available for

2132
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:55,760
us to look at and nothing can be checked

2133
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:57,280
i knew it was going to include some

2134
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:00,080
stuff about skinwalker ranch and anybody

2135
01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:01,920
joining now it this is billy cox's

2136
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:04,719
article i think it came out this morning

2137
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:06,080
i knew it was going to include some

2138
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:07,520
stuff from skinwalker ranch but it

2139
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,360
wasn't clear to me how much of the focus

2140
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:11,120
it was going to be until the book came

2141
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:12,400
out

2142
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:13,520
well

2143
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,280
skinwalker ranch wasn't the focus of

2144
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,280
ossep and it's also not the focus of the

2145
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:19,760
book i mean the five dia folks had an

2146
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:21,760
experience at skinwalker and then took

2147
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:24,159
stuff home with them but the book is not

2148
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,560
focused on skinwalker ranch so i don't

2149
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:28,080
know what book he read i don't agree

2150
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:29,280
with that

2151
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:31,520
he says now we learned that lakowsky

2152
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:33,120
he's thinking forwardly he's thinking

2153
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,120
about threats to national security but

2154
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:37,120
it all starts with skinwalker ranch

2155
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:39,360
which actually has very little to do

2156
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:40,880
with ufos

2157
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:43,360
this guy probably has not read the book

2158
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:45,600
like he claims or he doesn't know

2159
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,360
that hunter the skinwalker if you go

2160
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:49,280
back and read that and you listen to

2161
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:52,080
lakotsky's interviews yes yes skinwalker

2162
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,199
ranch has

2163
01:21:56,709 --> 01:21:55,440
nuts and bolts metallic craft being

2164
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,719
cited there

2165
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:58,480
and the other stuff that goes along with

2166
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,800
it that's the history of ufos it's just

2167
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,960
something i never knew about and i never

2168
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,400
read about until recently and then i

2169
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,560
heard eric davis talking about any close

2170
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:08,159
encounters you get you know you get

2171
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:09,760
poltergeist effects

2172
01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:12,719
it was new to me um and jacques vale and

2173
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,280
eric davis wrote about similar in their

2174
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,360
six-layer article which i'll also link

2175
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,120
to that um

2176
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:21,120
but yes their ufos are connected to

2177
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,560
skinwalker ranch i don't know what he's

2178
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,400
talking about

2179
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:28,390
the quote continues

2180
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:29,679
there are lots of problems here but

2181
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:31,520
what's missing is his thinking why would

2182
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,960
he think all that stuff at the ranch

2183
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,880
would relate to ufos

2184
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:36,400
that's really bad that this guy doesn't

2185
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,920
understand the connection between ufos

2186
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:39,840
and skinwalker ranch

2187
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:42,080
read hunt for the skinwalker read

2188
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,840
skinwalkers at the pentagon listen to

2189
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:45,840
lakowsky's interview listen to keller's

2190
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:46,719
interview

2191
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:49,199
yes there's 100 percent a connection

2192
01:22:52,870 --> 01:22:50,960
listen to brandon and fugle watch the

2193
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:52,880
show they had ufo sightings as they were

2194
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:56,320
taping yes so the question is

2195
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:58,400
you know is the ufo phenomena at

2196
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:00,800
skinwalker the same ufo phenomenon all

2197
01:23:05,910 --> 01:23:03,920
over the world um or is the intelligence

2198
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:05,920
whatever is going on and i'm speculating

2199
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:07,520
whatever is going on at skinwalker is

2200
01:23:11,270 --> 01:23:09,600
just playing games it can take any form

2201
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:11,280
it wants and it's just trying to trick

2202
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:12,320
people into thinking there's a

2203
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,320
connection to nuts and bolts metallic

2204
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:16,639
ufos i don't i don't think there's any

2205
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:18,480
trick going on that's that kind of stuff

2206
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:21,280
has been reported which i'm learning

2207
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:23,040
for a very long time so this is not

2208
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:24,480
really anything new and this guy really

2209
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:26,800
needs to go back and read the book

2210
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:28,639
i'm not saying he goes

2211
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:30,000
why would he think all that stuff at the

2212
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:31,760
ranch would relate to ufos i'm not

2213
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,600
saying it doesn't i just want him to

2214
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:35,040
tell me what he's thinking about back

2215
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:36,880
then

2216
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:39,040
maybe that got taken out too i don't

2217
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,320
think so i mean i'll have to go over the

2218
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:43,120
book again and find specifics but

2219
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:44,080
anyway

2220
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,199
during the 2008-2010 bia investigation

2221
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:50,000
you activity pla ufo activity played

2222
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:51,760
second fiddle to a wild range of

2223
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:54,159
paranormal scenarios be deviling an

2224
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,920
isolated ranch in the badlands of

2225
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:58,080
northeast utah according to skinwalkers

2226
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:03,910
so yeah the most

2227
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:05,679
this guy's saying most of the

2228
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,510
stuff

2229
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:15,590
not ufo activity he's talking about the

2230
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:17,760
paranormal related paranormal stuff that

2231
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:19,840
people were experiencing stuff that's a

2232
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:21,840
scientific term

2233
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:24,080
and this is billy writing

2234
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,400
most disquieting are accounts of dog men

2235
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,560
or shadow people

2236
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:30,880
i don't think dog men are in the book um

2237
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,679
the new book there are bipedal bipedal

2238
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,679
wolves that people cited people had

2239
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:36,880
sightings of

2240
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:41,270
most disquieting or accounts of dog men

2241
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:43,040
or shadow people following researchers

2242
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,719
home and what the book likens to a

2243
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:46,400
social contagion

2244
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,639
or a hitchhiker effect

2245
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:51,120
scu's powell calls those anecdotes

2246
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,639
meaningless for purposes of the

2247
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,960
immediate discussion immediate as of

2248
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:56,239
right now

2249
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:57,360
fine

2250
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:58,960
as far as figuring out what the hell

2251
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,960
this phenomenon represents

2252
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:02,880
extremely important even the anecdotes

2253
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:05,040
are important um

2254
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:07,120
we could figure out ways to somehow

2255
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:09,520
measure that scientifically but the

2256
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:11,440
social contagion is not just in

2257
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,960
skinwalkers in the pentagon you read

2258
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,880
other books about poltergeists

2259
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:16,800
that i'm learning about these people

2260
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:18,480
were suggesting that there is some sort

2261
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,719
of some sort of how it

2262
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:22,560
attaches to somebody and spreads it's

2263
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:24,080
not a new idea

2264
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:25,840
as george knapp said he he recently

2265
01:25:29,669 --> 01:25:27,520
thought it was a new idea until he read

2266
01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:29,679
other literature so it's not a new idea

2267
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,520
of this and it's some of the cases are

2268
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:33,199
not ufo cases they're places that

2269
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:35,679
allegedly had poltergeist activity not

2270
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,840
ufo activity but it's apparently

2271
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,040
spreading how that works from a physics

2272
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:42,960
standpoint no idea but people are

2273
01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:46,239
witnessing and experiencing that so

2274
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:48,239
i think it will we'll have to look into

2275
01:25:52,310 --> 01:25:50,000
that when we try to figure this out i

2276
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,320
don't think it's as most people most

2277
01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:54,239
people like jacques valet and john keel

2278
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:56,400
they don't think it's just et's visiting

2279
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:58,080
as if that wouldn't be amazing in itself

2280
01:26:00,870 --> 01:25:59,360
it would be but

2281
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:00,880
it's i think it's more complicated at

2282
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:02,560
least one aspect of what we're dealing

2283
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:06,310
there's nothing anywhere in the book

2284
01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:07,520
that convinced me that these wolf

2285
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,520
creatures or whatever they have

2286
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:11,040
whatever have

2287
01:26:15,110 --> 01:26:13,040
that these wolf creatures or whatever

2288
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,120
have anything to do with the uap he says

2289
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:17,360
this is the guy from the chicago uh ufo

2290
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,480
group

2291
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:20,239
i i believe or is this powell let me

2292
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,110
rotager i'm trying to see where he

2293
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,950
yeah yeah it's powell

2294
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:34,480
owl says there's nothing anywhere in the

2295
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:35,840
book to convince me that these wolf

2296
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,520
creatures or whatever they have anything

2297
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,080
to do with uap there's no detailed beta

2298
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:42,800
to suggest to suggest there's anything

2299
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,280
like a virus associated with this if i'm

2300
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:46,960
going down that road i would like to

2301
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,639
have known exactly when the first guy

2302
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,120
brought it back i'm fine with that i do

2303
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,880
want to know those details but like i

2304
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:54,000
said

2305
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,760
the case of bringing something back with

2306
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,360
you goes

2307
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,360
way back before this book way back

2308
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:02,080
before the asap study it's not something

2309
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,760
new um that's important

2310
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:07,440
the book says not only did the guy's

2311
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:08,960
family start seeing things but one of

2312
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:10,880
his son's friends started seeing things

2313
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:13,760
too so that was a bipedal wolf the wife

2314
01:27:17,830 --> 01:27:15,679
saw it um

2315
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:17,840
jonathan axelrod comes home after going

2316
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,360
to skinwalker ranch the wife sees a

2317
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,840
bipedal wolf out the window

2318
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,760
scratch marks on the tree outside and

2319
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:25,760
then doesn't say anything to anybody as

2320
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:27,760
far as the kids then the kid reports it

2321
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,520
and then one of the kids friends reports

2322
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:30,880
it so

2323
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:32,320
powell says i want to know how many

2324
01:27:36,070 --> 01:27:35,280
friends did he visit as far as axelrod's

2325
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,080
son

2326
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:38,320
um when did he see them how many of his

2327
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,400
friends had this experience how long

2328
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:42,000
were they exposed to each other and

2329
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:43,679
there's none of that

2330
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,320
this is really like telling a story uh

2331
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,920
some like somebody telling a story over

2332
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,000
a campfire i don't disagree with that i

2333
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:51,520
do want to know all of those details i'm

2334
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:53,440
not sure why that's not in the book

2335
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:54,960
why they could not include that in the

2336
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,760
book

2337
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,440
those are the details i do want to know

2338
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,040
so at least powell's asking that he's

2339
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,040
not just totally dismissing it he's just

2340
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:03,440
saying it comes across as a story

2341
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,600
and it's lacking details

2342
01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:07,280
without the release of the voluminous

2343
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,760
uap records compiled by the dia more

2344
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:11,520
than a decade ago

2345
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:13,360
speculation over the more sensational

2346
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:14,880
elements of a book produced by the

2347
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:17,040
former director of ossap

2348
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,400
is a road to nowhere and potentially

2349
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:22,320
counterproductive foreign makers already

2350
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:26,239
wary of little green men punchlines

2351
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:27,760
i'm not sure if that's powell saying

2352
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:29,679
that or billy saying that but i disagree

2353
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:35,189
it's not

2354
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:36,400
that's where it's gonna head

2355
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:39,360
unfortunately people none of you know i

2356
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,440
would love for it to be something really

2357
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,199
simple that we could figure out the fact

2358
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:45,120
that we haven't figured anything out at

2359
01:28:48,390 --> 01:28:47,199
least on the outside

2360
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,400
you know i'm not talking about people

2361
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,920
who have access to data we don't have

2362
01:28:53,669 --> 01:28:51,520
but we have not we don't know what the

2363
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,679
hell's going on after 70 years i don't

2364
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:55,280
think it's so simple i think it's very

2365
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:56,400
complicated

2366
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,840
and we need to go down those roads

2367
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:01,600
keep your eye on the ball says scu's

2368
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:03,920
powell america's teetering democracy may

2369
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:09,830
let's assume for the sake of argument

2370
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,280
that what we're dealing with is an

2371
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,679
extraterrestrial intelligence

2372
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:15,600
well says powell the way we're

2373
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:18,239
positioned today with when we when we

2374
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:20,080
make first conscious contact with that

2375
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:21,520
intelligence it's going to be through a

2376
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,400
military organization and i mean really

2377
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:26,480
who wants a military organization ours

2378
01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:28,880
or anyone else's to represent planet

2379
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,360
earth if and when that happens it should

2380
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,040
be more about something that represents

2381
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:34,800
the whole planet because it's going to

2382
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:37,040
impact the entire planet

2383
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:40,639
oai msg versus astro

2384
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:42,719
i don't see a reason for them to coexist

2385
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:44,560
powell says congress needs to make that

2386
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,040
decision congress needs to say we will

2387
01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:49,199
ultimately support the organization that

2388
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,960
controls the information for

2389
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:53,360
dissemination to the public so that's

2390
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:57,040
billy cox's article from today

2391
01:30:04,790 --> 01:29:58,880
now we'll go through some of your

2392
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:06,550
let's see

2393
01:30:11,270 --> 01:30:08,480
and i do have i have the james mcdonald

2394
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,310
yeah

2395
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,960
he had a clue supposedly but

2396
01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:16,480
we didn't get to hear what it was he

2397
01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:21,750
and yeah i heard the same thing tom

2398
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:25,199
that powell's firm nuts and bolts which

2399
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:27,600
i personally don't don't understand i i

2400
01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:29,840
understand it but it's like

2401
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:31,600
to me it's it's obviously there's so

2402
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:35,600
much more we're dealing with um

2403
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:37,120
david i agree there's no reason we can't

2404
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:38,639
see photos of the stretch marks on the

2405
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:41,040
trees yeah all that stuff you know

2406
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,520
that's up to bigelow though um but we

2407
01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:45,199
could have gotten more details you know

2408
01:30:49,030 --> 01:30:46,719
there are details i would like to know

2409
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:49,040
exactly you know how were they

2410
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,880
interviewed if there are transcripts i

2411
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,320
would love transcripts of the interviews

2412
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,480
with the son and the wife and the sons

2413
01:30:58,070 --> 01:30:56,560
friends who saw the alleged

2414
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:58,080
bipedal wolf

2415
01:31:01,669 --> 01:30:59,840
the people laugh when they hear that but

2416
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:01,679
it's like

2417
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:03,679
they said i think keller said and or

2418
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:04,800
napped that

2419
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:07,040
they studied the area around skinwalker

2420
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,040
ranch and that particular report is

2421
01:31:13,750 --> 01:31:12,080
amazing the details and lukowski went

2422
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:13,760
into the park the department of homeland

2423
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:14,880
security

2424
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:16,960
and let loose with everything with

2425
01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:19,600
detail after detail of of odd creatures

2426
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:21,520
and what what i would get what i

2427
01:31:24,229 --> 01:31:23,440
wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in

2428
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:24,239
that

2429
01:31:27,910 --> 01:31:25,520
you know

2430
01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:27,920
and that briefing that took place

2431
01:31:31,750 --> 01:31:29,679
that would be amazing the fact that

2432
01:31:34,149 --> 01:31:31,760
lukowski did that makes me makes makes

2433
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:34,159
him my hero as far as you follow

2434
01:31:38,070 --> 01:31:36,719
ufological hero for him to have the guts

2435
01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,080
to talk about that

2436
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,120
uh with people at dhs is incredible to

2437
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:48,390
um the 23-minute video would help

2438
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:50,709
it's not lou lou has no control people

2439
01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:52,400
need to realize luke can't release

2440
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:54,880
videos unless unless lou is working for

2441
01:31:58,629 --> 01:31:56,719
the government at a level that we don't

2442
01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:58,639
know as far as we know he doesn't work

2443
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:01,199
for the government he's a contractor but

2444
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:03,040
lou has no control over releasing that

2445
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:04,960
information

2446
01:32:08,229 --> 01:32:06,960
and

2447
01:32:09,510 --> 01:32:08,239
let's see we've been going for an hour

2448
01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:09,520
and a half which i didn't plan to go

2449
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:10,880
that long but

2450
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:13,600
i'll play something just really quick

2451
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:16,639
and let me know if you can hear it but

2452
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:18,000
something a little different than what

2453
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:20,480
we're talking about which is

2454
01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:22,960
really to me

2455
01:32:27,669 --> 01:32:25,840
i'm kind of surprised that it's

2456
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:27,679
some this person this person was in

2457
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:29,679
charge of mufon

2458
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:34,719
when they got the asap program

2459
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:36,239
the awesome

2460
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:37,760
when asset

2461
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:40,480
contracted with mufon

2462
01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:43,280
and um this is james carrion and check

2463
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:44,960
out his comments but he would so this

2464
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:47,600
was this was on the show time special

2465
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:48,400
you

2466
01:32:52,830 --> 01:32:50,880
the showtime special called ufo was a

2467
01:32:56,709 --> 01:32:52,840
four-part

2468
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:59,189
before i get to that i don't think dia

2469
01:33:02,629 --> 01:33:00,880
even cared it was only because harry

2470
01:33:05,110 --> 01:33:02,639
reid arranged it yeah that's not what it

2471
01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:05,120
says in the book there are people in dia

2472
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:08,800
that that did care but overall i agree

2473
01:33:11,910 --> 01:33:10,080
with you but

2474
01:33:14,790 --> 01:33:11,920
i don't know who those people are at

2475
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:14,800
dia i want to find out specifically

2476
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:16,000
um

2477
01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:18,080
but yeah i don't i think overall you're

2478
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:19,600
right tom

2479
01:33:23,669 --> 01:33:21,600
if harry if

2480
01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:23,679
if harry reid doesn't have an interest

2481
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:25,520
in the subject thanks to george knapp

2482
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:26,880
and george knapp doesn't write the book

2483
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,960
with kelleher and lukowski doesn't read

2484
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:31,360
the book and then go to skinwalker ranch

2485
01:33:34,950 --> 01:33:33,360
gets back to read then yeah this doesn't

2486
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,960
happen i don't know where we would be

2487
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:37,040
right now i don't know we probably would

2488
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:39,280
not be having this conversation i agree

2489
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:41,920
that the majority of dia does not have

2490
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:43,840
an interest in this but i would like to

2491
01:33:47,270 --> 01:33:46,080
know how many people do it was enough to

2492
01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:47,280
get the program

2493
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:49,040
you know funded

2494
01:33:52,550 --> 01:33:50,880
thanks to reid in your way and stevens

2495
01:33:57,510 --> 01:33:52,560
um but anyway let me play some of this

2496
01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,149
it's a four-parter

2497
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:02,400
release of that 2017

2498
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:04,480
there's one more clip

2499
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:06,400
from the um i know that i guess that was

2500
01:34:08,630 --> 01:34:07,920
it so

2501
01:34:09,990 --> 01:34:08,640
yeah um

2502
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:10,000
[Music]

2503
01:34:15,430 --> 01:34:12,880
carry on is also taking shots at

2504
01:34:18,229 --> 01:34:15,440
skinwalker ranch and brandon fugle and

2505
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:18,239
i've stopped interacting with him sorry

2506
01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:20,159
it's just

2507
01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:22,159
i just have no time for somebody who's

2508
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:28,550
yeah i

2509
01:34:32,390 --> 01:34:30,400
i'm sure there's manipulation going on

2510
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:32,400
um to what degree i don't know

2511
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:35,440
um but everything to him it's like

2512
01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:37,040
and skinwalker ranch he's not the only

2513
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:38,719
one there are other people that think of

2514
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:40,719
skinwalker ranch is all black ops and

2515
01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:42,480
they quote they quote

2516
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:44,400
kit green where kid green says i don't

2517
01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:45,440
need to

2518
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:47,600
jump to extraterrestrial technology to

2519
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:50,000
explain what's going on at skinwalker

2520
01:34:52,550 --> 01:34:51,440
what the question would be are you

2521
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:52,560
saying

2522
01:34:57,830 --> 01:34:55,920
whatever's going on at skinwalker is

2523
01:34:59,830 --> 01:34:57,840
human i don't think i don't think kitt

2524
01:35:01,750 --> 01:34:59,840
green would say that um i think they

2525
01:35:03,990 --> 01:35:01,760
manipulate that quote for their own

2526
01:35:05,510 --> 01:35:04,000
purposes but

2527
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:05,520
you know listen to erica luke's show

2528
01:35:09,430 --> 01:35:07,679
she's 100 convinced as far as i know

2529
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:09,440
it's black technology and i don't think

2530
01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:15,750
i it's like here i am just trying to

2531
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:17,840
think of what the hell is going on not

2532
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,600
that i have a brain that could figure it

2533
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:20,880
out and then there are people who still

2534
01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:22,960
wondering well is elizondo was he

2535
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:25,360
inflating his role at atip and like

2536
01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:27,360
we're four years into this

2537
01:35:31,990 --> 01:35:30,080
uh i think we realize now asap was the

2538
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:32,000
program but you know atip was also

2539
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:33,679
important for what its focus was on

2540
01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:38,709
and now we have

2541
01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:40,639
congress talking about it i

2542
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,560
i don't see the psyop angle on what's

2543
01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,320
going on

2544
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:46,400
maybe i'm naive you know i just don't

2545
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:48,719
see it if and if it turns out to be i'm

2546
01:35:52,390 --> 01:35:50,960
wrong so be it i just don't see it it

2547
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:52,400
doesn't make sense to me i'm using

2548
01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:53,440
judgment

2549
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,199
um

2550
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:56,960
if there's something going on i don't

2551
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,679
know about then so be it um

2552
01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:02,000
the people i talk with as i said they

2553
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:03,440
don't tell me information that's

2554
01:36:08,550 --> 01:36:05,760
outlandish it goes along with what i've

2555
01:36:11,189 --> 01:36:08,560
known since or what i what i think i've

2556
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:11,199
known or believed since the mid 90s when

2557
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:12,719
i first got into this that something's

2558
01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:15,040
interacting with this on this planet

2559
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:16,639
none of them go further than that i

2560
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,040
don't really you know

2561
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:21,600
publicly eric davis publicly talks about

2562
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:23,119
crash retrievals

2563
01:36:28,629 --> 01:36:25,600
he's not the only one i mean he goes to

2564
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,639
he goes the furthest out of anybody but

2565
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:30,880
like i said yesterday christopher mellon

2566
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:33,280
was on cnn saying that you know he was

2567
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:34,960
with davis when he briefed folks on

2568
01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:38,290
capitol hill about crash retrieval so um

2569
01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:40,000
[Music]

2570
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:41,840
and david thinks carrion's a total waste

2571
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,960
of time and i'm sorry i i'm a long i i

2572
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,560
agree with david because it turns into

2573
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:48,480
an argument with him

2574
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,520
and

2575
01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:51,360
i just don't have time to argue about it

2576
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:54,239
i i want to focus on other stuff so

2577
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,520
anyway

2578
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:57,360
i wrote i read a lot

2579
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,000
i'm happy people hung in there and now

2580
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:02,000
you know i'm glad more people are here

2581
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:03,760
now if there's any questions you have

2582
01:37:08,149 --> 01:37:06,400
before i go let me know i don't know how

2583
01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:08,159
exciting it was to read billy's article

2584
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,920
but i just wanted to give billy more

2585
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:11,840
exposure because he does not promote his

2586
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:14,400
stuff um

2587
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:15,920
and while i disagreed with a couple of

2588
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:17,760
people in that article i did agree that

2589
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:20,400
i would love to know more details about

2590
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:22,239
what happened in the investigations hell

2591
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:24,080
i want to know every detail that's why i

2592
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,600
love that book so much there are details

2593
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:28,080
that i had never seen before

2594
01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:30,960
in the awesome and as far as you know i

2595
01:37:33,669 --> 01:37:32,000
don't think you're saying we're all

2596
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:33,679
hallucinating they're saying it's black

2597
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:35,600
technology or it's adversarial or

2598
01:37:39,189 --> 01:37:37,360
they're pretending that it's

2599
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:39,199
something that's not in using it for

2600
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:41,280
whatever purpose is to you know somebody

2601
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,000
the other day said

2602
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:46,320
using it for purposes to beef up the

2603
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:47,760
military

2604
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:50,080
budget but i don't think it's not a

2605
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:51,840
they're not making a good

2606
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:53,440
good enough argument that this is a

2607
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,760
threat where we need the budget to to go

2608
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,520
after these threatening ufos they're

2609
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:59,600
doing a really bad job of it especially

2610
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:01,360
kelleher he's like

2611
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:03,600
i don't have any evidence this is a

2612
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,000
threat maybe sometimes it's it's not

2613
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,000
good for human health but

2614
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:10,000
because i cannot say after the two two

2615
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,239
years at ah asap

2616
01:38:17,030 --> 01:38:15,119
that ufos are a threat so

2617
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,040
if the goal is to push the threat angle

2618
01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:19,440
him elizondo melon they all suck at it

2619
01:38:24,629 --> 01:38:20,159
so

2620
01:38:28,149 --> 01:38:26,629
base is underwater or under ice it could

2621
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:28,159
be a breakaway civilization from this

2622
01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,840
planet or up above no one truly knows

2623
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:31,920
not even the military i mean i'm open

2624
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:35,119
that's a possibility i know i know

2625
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,080
richard dolan talks about it but

2626
01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:40,239
it's not something high on my list as

2627
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:42,960
far as possibilities but i don't

2628
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,119
i mean

2629
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:47,360
underwater yes you know we have so many

2630
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,960
sightings underwater

2631
01:38:53,750 --> 01:38:50,960
and that i don't know noah is included

2632
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:53,760
national ocean oshiro grant

2633
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,280
noah i'm not going to say it because now

2634
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:57,360
i'm getting tongue tied

2635
01:39:02,790 --> 01:38:59,520
but they're included in the gila brand

2636
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:02,800
oceanic administration so underwater

2637
01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:03,920
are we dealing with something that's

2638
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:11,270
make making starwars.net thank you thank

2639
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:12,320
you i don't know if i've seen you here

2640
01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:13,679
before um

2641
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:15,199
are there sightings over nuclear power

2642
01:39:18,870 --> 01:39:17,119
plants or just weapons locations yeah

2643
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:18,880
we've had sightings over nuclear power

2644
01:39:21,669 --> 01:39:20,080
plants too

2645
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,679
um

2646
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:23,520
i think

2647
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,520
i'm not sure if it was which one it was

2648
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,600
if anybody wants to jump in but yes

2649
01:39:32,709 --> 01:39:29,840
there have been sightings over nuclear

2650
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:32,719
power plants too i think guam i'm not

2651
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:35,440
sure if guam was a nuclear power plant

2652
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:37,199
there was another one that melon spoke

2653
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:39,040
about they had these weird drones they

2654
01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,440
called them drones

2655
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:43,119
they couldn't do anything about them i

2656
01:39:50,229 --> 01:39:48,870
what about ross's view of a group of xml

2657
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:50,239
yeah so

2658
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:53,040
that's right david's article

2659
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:54,560
so david wrote this up let me do this

2660
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:58,480
before i leave today let me see

2661
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:00,800
so david wrote this up so ross coldhat

2662
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:02,400
didn't been an interview and i don't

2663
01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:03,280
want to

2664
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,199
let me see if i could pull it up without

2665
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,880
showing anything else in your private

2666
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:08,400
message i don't think there's anything

2667
01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:10,239
really controversial in david's private

2668
01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:11,600
message to me

2669
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:13,600
um

2670
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:17,280
let me just see give me one second

2671
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,800
if there's anything

2672
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,400
sensitive in there no i'm gonna read

2673
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:23,840
what david wrote and it's ross coltar

2674
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:26,400
who wrote

2675
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:27,760
let's see

2676
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,760
he did a documentary the ufo phenomenon

2677
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:33,280
and he wrote a book and i'm drawing a

2678
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,880
blank on the name of his book but let me

2679
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:37,199
let me pull this up

2680
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:38,400
is

2681
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:42,880
it's well it's a done deal as if i think

2682
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:44,960
the pentagon is doing it i'm not sure i

2683
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:46,880
do not know how how that works where

2684
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,199
congress can say you need to stop that

2685
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,520
effort i would think they could

2686
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:52,880
you know i'm not sure what the funding

2687
01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:54,400
is on that

2688
01:41:01,830 --> 01:40:59,669
if if congress can say sorry the

2689
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:01,840
gillibrand amendment and rubio amendment

2690
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:04,560
has been passed do away with your aoi

2691
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:08,400
msg no astro is not a goner no no no no

2692
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:10,560
no just be patient with that

2693
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,280
still a ways to go um not a goner

2694
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:15,280
so let me let me read you with

2695
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:17,040
what david wrote

2696
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:20,960
and i will put it on the screen

2697
01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:22,960
in one second

2698
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:28,870
david hey so this is david's message i'm

2699
01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:32,719
not sure where he posted this but

2700
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:34,320
so david wrote this and it's an

2701
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:36,000
interview ross did with

2702
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:38,080
christina gomez interviewed ross i'll

2703
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:45,910
and david begins there are claims in

2704
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,080
this interview by mainstream journalist

2705
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:49,840
ross colthardt

2706
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:53,199
that a california californian aerospace

2707
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:54,960
company may be paying

2708
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:57,679
a group of ex-military personnel

2709
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,080
to travel worldwide investigating ufo

2710
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:02,719
events and retrieving physical samples

2711
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:04,960
speaking to christina gomez

2712
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:07,199
ross said

2713
01:42:11,189 --> 01:42:09,119
i do not believe that the technology

2714
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:11,199
that is in possession of the us has been

2715
01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:13,679
deliberately divested to private

2716
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,960
i do believe that technology in the us

2717
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:18,960
has been deliberately divested to

2718
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:21,119
private aerospace i know this is a

2719
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:23,119
controversial allegation but i think

2720
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:25,119
that there's been a deliberate attempt

2721
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:27,600
by certain sections of your military and

2722
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:29,679
intelligence services to avoid

2723
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:32,239
accountability and transparency

2724
01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:35,280
and that is what they're worried about

2725
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:37,760
they've actually committed

2726
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:48,229
sorry i had to sneeze there

2727
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:51,350
they're worried about

2728
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,870
they want to avoid

2729
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:54,639
accountability and transparency and

2730
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:57,040
that's that's what they're worried about

2731
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:59,040
they've actually committed crimes

2732
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:01,360
they've avoided admitting to oversight

2733
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,280
committees of the united states congress

2734
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,600
that there is technology that technology

2735
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:07,920
that has been quietly hived off into

2736
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,560
private aerospace companies

2737
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:12,800
and i've been told by people

2738
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:14,159
in

2739
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:15,920
i have to be careful here let me just

2740
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,920
say i'm aware of claims that there is a

2741
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:20,320
group of ex-military who go around the

2742
01:43:23,669 --> 01:43:21,280
world

2743
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:23,679
investigating the phenomena and my

2744
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:25,760
understanding is they're not paid by any

2745
01:43:29,350 --> 01:43:27,679
government

2746
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:29,360
they're paid by a private aerospace

2747
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:30,639
company based out of long beach

2748
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,639
california now let me just stop right

2749
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:34,560
there in the interview that that luis

2750
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:36,480
elizondo did with richard dolan which i

2751
01:43:42,709 --> 01:43:40,400
transcribed on my on my blog ufojoe.net

2752
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:42,719
lou talks about a close colleague a

2753
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:45,040
close colleague of his encountering men

2754
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:48,159
in black like a many a men in black type

2755
01:43:51,510 --> 01:43:49,360
group

2756
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:51,520
um something that operates on the black

2757
01:43:56,070 --> 01:43:53,760
side of the house he said something in

2758
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:56,080
black budget he didn't say it was run by

2759
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:57,600
an aerospace corporation but he said

2760
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:59,199
that a close colleague of his

2761
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:01,280
encountered them and these people yeah

2762
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:02,800
basically they arrive on the scene and

2763
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:05,360
they confiscate ufo data

2764
01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:07,840
and they intimidate people is this the

2765
01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:09,440
same group that ross is talking about

2766
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:11,520
here i don't know

2767
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:15,990
he says it's a private aerospace company

2768
01:44:20,229 --> 01:44:18,400
based out of long beach california

2769
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:20,239
somebody today told me the only

2770
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,840
aerospace company they know in long

2771
01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:23,840
beach is boeing

2772
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:26,080
ross continues i've spoken to former

2773
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:27,600
military personnel who claim to have

2774
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:29,440
been part of that body

2775
01:44:32,830 --> 01:44:30,880
a number of them are people who've

2776
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:32,840
worked for our defense signals

2777
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:35,440
directorate as it was then known or

2778
01:44:39,590 --> 01:44:37,520
other intelligence or military services

2779
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:39,600
in our country but i'm told there is a

2780
01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:42,080
collaborative effort to investigate the

2781
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:44,320
phenomenon and to retrieve any physical

2782
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:46,400
samples and this has been going on for

2783
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,719
some time

2784
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:50,400
speaking of a very deliberate effort

2785
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,080
made by key officials in your government

2786
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:53,920
to shut down and neutralize public

2787
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:56,560
interest in the phenomenon ross added

2788
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:58,639
incredible as it may sound religious

2789
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,719
zealots inside inside your military

2790
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:02,800
establishment are trying to shut down

2791
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:04,239
shut this down because they find the

2792
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:06,000
whole thing offensive to their religious

2793
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:07,520
beliefs

2794
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,360
they're deep evangelical christians at

2795
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,520
high levels in the intelligence services

2796
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:13,360
particularly the u.s air force and

2797
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,480
they're just morally offended

2798
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:18,239
by the idea that there might be a

2799
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,119
non-human explanation for the phenomenon

2800
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:22,800
so what do they do they stick their

2801
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:24,320
heads in the sand and they lie to the

2802
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,560
american public about it and frankly

2803
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,400
they'll keep on lying unless you good

2804
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:30,719
people out there start shaking the cage

2805
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,320
rattling the cage and demanding

2806
01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:34,480
information because you can we're at

2807
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:36,480
such an important time here where all of

2808
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:37,440
a sudden

2809
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:39,520
the congress has a proposition before it

2810
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:41,040
where essentially the congress would

2811
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:43,840
require uap transparency it would

2812
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,560
require reports every year i think every

2813
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,560
six months detailing with the united

2814
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:50,159
states government knows about the uap

2815
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:51,040
issue

2816
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:52,320
dealing

2817
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,400
detailing what the us government knows

2818
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:56,000
about

2819
01:46:01,350 --> 01:45:58,400
incredible references to alien life

2820
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,360
non-human entities and recovered craft

2821
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:02,960
these recommendations by senator

2822
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:05,199
gillibrand are absolutely fundamentally

2823
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:07,119
important to our understanding our

2824
01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:10,480
potential understanding as humanity

2825
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:12,880
as humanity of what is probably one of

2826
01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:13,920
the most

2827
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:16,239
monumental monumental secrets that's

2828
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:18,719
ever been kept it is the biggest story

2829
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:21,440
of our time i cannot overstate this and

2830
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:23,440
i don't care for a moment what the

2831
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:25,840
skeptics and debunkers say the level of

2832
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:27,679
proof is now far beyond the criminal

2833
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:31,119
burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt

2834
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:32,480
there is something that the united

2835
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:34,400
states is sitting on that it doesn't

2836
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:36,080
want you to know and key officials in

2837
01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:37,920
your air force and your intelligence

2838
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:40,000
services are desperately trying to stop

2839
01:46:43,510 --> 01:46:41,920
you from finding out about it

2840
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:43,520
now you can go on for the rest of your

2841
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:45,760
life in a sleepy days and just let the

2842
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:47,760
world manipulate manipulate itself

2843
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,600
around you or you can find out what's

2844
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:52,320
really going on because i've spoken to

2845
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:55,040
some of these people i've i've spoken to

2846
01:46:59,430 --> 01:46:57,119
some of these insiders i know what's

2847
01:47:01,109 --> 01:46:59,440
coming there's a lot of that i can't

2848
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:01,119
talk about but some of the revelations

2849
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:03,440
are breathtaking and i think people just

2850
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:05,679
need to realize they have the power to

2851
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:08,480
push they have the power to force change

2852
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:10,560
we are at an absolutely monumental

2853
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:12,159
moment in political history in the

2854
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:13,920
united states where the congress is

2855
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:16,080
deciding once and for all will the

2856
01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:17,920
public ever know

2857
01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:19,679
this is it

2858
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:23,360
and that is david heath transcribing

2859
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:25,280
ross coltart's interview with christina

2860
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:28,000
gomez that is david's

2861
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:30,159
twitter you could follow him

2862
01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:32,960
and christina gomez i'll link to that

2863
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,880
article but

2864
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:37,199
i will also pull up on a screen for

2865
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,159
people who have not

2866
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:42,400
signed up for twitter which you should

2867
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:43,199
but

2868
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:44,960
the next best thing is to follow me here

2869
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,679
but i can't cover every little thing

2870
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:49,520
darn it i don't know what the name for

2871
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:51,440
um

2872
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,119
twitter is so

2873
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:55,040
she has a name eyes on the i think it's

2874
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:56,480
eyes

2875
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:58,000
um

2876
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:59,360
there we go

2877
01:48:01,910 --> 01:48:00,639
i remembered so that's that's

2878
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:01,920
christina's

2879
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:06,880
she works for the debrief

2880
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:09,440
and that's her twitter handle

2881
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:11,040
i have not listened to that interview if

2882
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:13,760
it wasn't for david transcribing i would

2883
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:15,679
have not

2884
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,719
known about it so thank you david um any

2885
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:19,679
quick

2886
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,560
comments before i go

2887
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:24,800
where's danny sheehan ben good question

2888
01:48:28,709 --> 01:48:27,199
i gotta put out my 70 000 danny sheen

2889
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,719
transcript which is really really

2890
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,920
repetitive but i think i'm just going to

2891
01:48:33,990 --> 01:48:31,760
put it out and not worry about

2892
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:34,000
adding too much to it people can read

2893
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:37,679
read it or ignore it it's really long

2894
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:39,520
also there are a lot of companies listed

2895
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:44,830
the

2896
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,000
but yeah some of what we're dealing with

2897
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,040
maybe that i don't know

2898
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,880
and the only company i see making tech

2899
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,480
breakthroughs in the military sector is

2900
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,639
lockheed

2901
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:04,239
so i don't know who's ross talk who ross

2902
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:05,679
is talking about i know he's sharing

2903
01:49:08,950 --> 01:49:07,840
information with what his sources tell

2904
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:08,960
him

2905
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:13,440
but

2906
01:49:17,109 --> 01:49:15,520
um he's an investigative reporter if he

2907
01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:17,119
has sources that he trusts and he's

2908
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,719
sharing what he can with us i don't see

2909
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,320
why he would be criticized but there are

2910
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:22,239
people that criticize him

2911
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:23,119
um

2912
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:24,480
i won't get into it there's some big

2913
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:27,040
names that criticize him

2914
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:29,520
i don't know who ross's sources are but

2915
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:30,639
um

2916
01:49:34,629 --> 01:49:32,719
he's a former 60 minutes australia

2917
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:34,639
investigative reporter who won a lot of

2918
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:35,920
awards and

2919
01:49:39,430 --> 01:49:37,119
it's not

2920
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:39,440
every day that we have an international

2921
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:41,440
national reporter interested in this and

2922
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,000
staying on top of it so

2923
01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:46,159
i think we we should support them i mean

2924
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:47,679
i don't know whose sources are like i

2925
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:49,360
said so

2926
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:51,199
um and he talks there are other people

2927
01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:52,880
too that talk about time travel being

2928
01:49:58,709 --> 01:49:55,599
involved in this

2929
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:58,719
you know i don't know um

2930
01:50:03,589 --> 01:50:01,599
definitely that is my coolest

2931
01:50:05,589 --> 01:50:03,599
solution or part of the solution if

2932
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,599
we're dealing with some of

2933
01:50:08,390 --> 01:50:07,280
our cells from the future which would be

2934
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:08,400
really cool

2935
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:09,760
um

2936
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:11,599
but as ross said that would mean that

2937
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:14,000
they felt compelled enough to come back

2938
01:50:17,030 --> 01:50:15,199
to this time

2939
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,040
and you know because something happens

2940
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:19,040
in the future

2941
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:21,280
so

2942
01:50:25,109 --> 01:50:22,719
david said i posted a link to half a

2943
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:25,119
dozen aerospace groups out of long beach

2944
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:26,719
okay

2945
01:50:37,589 --> 01:50:35,840
person just doesn't believe

2946
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:37,599
what ross is saying that his sources are

2947
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:39,760
wrong but that's fine ross

2948
01:50:46,470 --> 01:50:44,000
ross can only go by his sources so

2949
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:46,480
i don't know he's but ross did say he he

2950
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:49,440
has an idea of what's coming which

2951
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:50,639
then

2952
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:52,960
we'll see stuff so i don't know

2953
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:54,480
i don't know do we have to push hard to

2954
01:50:58,470 --> 01:50:56,560
see i know or is it just going to come

2955
01:51:02,629 --> 01:50:58,480
out because that's just what's happening

2956
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:05,430
and i know yeah mark dr masters yeah he

2957
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:06,880
believes that we're dealing with time

2958
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,800
travelers whitley strieber mentioned one

2959
01:51:12,149 --> 01:51:10,400
of the ladies who encountered a being at

2960
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:12,159
the cabin

2961
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:13,360
said

2962
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:18,960
you're going to look just like this one

2963
01:51:22,950 --> 01:51:20,320
day so that makes me think time

2964
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:22,960
travelers too so

2965
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:25,040
i don't know like i said every day it's

2966
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:26,880
different

2967
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:30,800
what we're dealing with nothing nothing

2968
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:33,119
set in stone whatsoever

2969
01:51:37,430 --> 01:51:35,679
just that something is here i i said the

2970
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:37,440
other other day on another show that i'm

2971
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:38,960
hoping

2972
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:40,880
i am open to everything being black

2973
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:43,199
technology from the beginning of this in

2974
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:44,719
the 40s but

2975
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:46,960
the percentage i give the odds of that

2976
01:51:51,750 --> 01:51:49,360
being the truth are like for me i'm just

2977
01:51:53,589 --> 01:51:51,760
doing you know just keeping my mind open

2978
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,599
but it's like down here

2979
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:55,280
i don't think that's the case obviously

2980
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,800
when kit green and i say this all the

2981
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,599
time

2982
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:59,760
when kit green tells me his parents had

2983
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:00,960
a sighting

2984
01:52:05,669 --> 01:52:02,560
um

2985
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:05,679
back in the early 30s of a craft rising

2986
01:52:08,709 --> 01:52:07,040
up out of a lake

2987
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:08,719
with multiple witnesses you know that's

2988
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:11,679
a trans medium classic flying saucer i

2989
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:14,320
don't think that's black technology so

2990
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:16,080
well kit green lied to you because he's

2991
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:17,920
part of the psyop okay everything is a

2992
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:20,320
psy up i know i get it it gets more it

2993
01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:22,000
gets really tiring

2994
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,870
all right last one

2995
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,470
tom delong said on rogan we're dealing

2996
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:32,000
with did not sound like time travelers

2997
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:33,920
seems more like archons yeah i don't

2998
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,760
know if you know

2999
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:37,199
um

3000
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:39,520
tom and peter lavender there's an

3001
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,280
interview i need to transcribe where

3002
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,800
lavender talked about there was one

3003
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:44,639
source they had they called him

3004
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:46,880
informants la mendo calls him informants

3005
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,159
and he said

3006
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,679
he thought they were pulling

3007
01:52:54,149 --> 01:52:51,360
their this informant was pulling their

3008
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:54,159
leg because it's a big question where is

3009
01:52:57,510 --> 01:52:55,599
their information coming from where is

3010
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:57,520
tom delong's information coming from as

3011
01:53:02,149 --> 01:52:59,840
ross coltart said nobody thinks tom

3012
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:02,159
delong is lying the question is

3013
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,560
are the people that de long and lavender

3014
01:53:09,189 --> 01:53:06,719
are talking to are they lying to them

3015
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,199
you know just like with eric davis and

3016
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:11,280
and the crash retrievals was admiral

3017
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,199
wilson lying to him or was the person

3018
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:15,599
that admiral wilson found at the

3019
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:17,440
aerospace company the daylight admiral

3020
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:19,280
wilson i don't think so i do think we

3021
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,840
have at least one intact craft but it's

3022
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:24,080
you know something you have to consider

3023
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:26,560
anyway all right i'm gonna go

3024
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:27,440
um

3025
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,719
i don't know if i'll do this tomorrow

3026
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:30,880
i'll do it more more often

3027
01:53:34,229 --> 01:53:33,119
it depends i mean it doesn't get a lot

3028
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:34,239
of

3029
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:38,239
for this but

3030
01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:39,920
i know it's really good for the youtube

3031
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,599
folks so i'll try to do at least an hour

3032
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,599
it may not be every day today was a good

3033
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:45,360
day even though i know it was a little

3034
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,040
boring from rereading

3035
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:49,199
um

3036
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:49,920
but

3037
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:50,719
so

3038
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:52,159
the green hiker

3039
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,800
thank you very much

3040
01:53:58,629 --> 01:53:56,800
and as you as you do that my dog is

3041
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,639
growling he's mad that i just made money

3042
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:00,880
on this he the dog is opposed to me

3043
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:06,229
um

3044
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:07,920
thank you again green hiker tom could

3045
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,159
absolutely be used yeah you know people

3046
01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:12,000
call him a useful useful idiot i don't

3047
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:13,840
think he's an idiot i think he

3048
01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:15,520
was very important for what went on and

3049
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:18,080
when the information came out so

3050
01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:19,920
all right so that was two hours that

3051
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:23,679
went by really quick and

3052
01:54:27,030 --> 01:54:25,360
anytime in the future if you guys have

3053
01:54:28,790 --> 01:54:27,040
like really important questions as i'm

3054
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:28,800
reading put it all in caps and i'll see

3055
01:54:32,790 --> 01:54:30,560
it easier i'm sure i missed questions

3056
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:32,800
because i'm trying to read and focus too

3057
01:54:36,229 --> 01:54:34,480
so

3058
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:36,239
i will probably see you tomorrow and

3059
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:38,400
then i will not see you on friday and

3060
01:54:42,229 --> 01:54:39,920
saturday because i am working some

3061
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:42,239
boxing event at mgm and i do not know

3062
01:54:48,709 --> 01:54:43,679
who's boxing i don't think i'm shooting

3063
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:50,149
the link to those aerospace companies

3064
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:51,280
okay

3065
01:54:56,229 --> 01:54:54,239
thank you david

3066
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:56,239
have a good night hutch

3067
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,629
what is it

3068
01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:02,320
a wolf

3069
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:04,239
it's hard for me to read i need glasses